(April 13, 2014 at 3:40 pm)Revelation777 Wrote:(April 13, 2014 at 3:35 pm)Thackerie Wrote: Let's get this straight, buttercup. "Sin" is defined as a transgression against divine law. You and fellow believers, going back thousands of years, have utterly failed to establish that any such thing as divine law exists. I don't believe it does.
Therefore, I have never sinned -- not once, not ever -- and neither have you or anyone else.
On the other hand, people may commit crimes, misdemeanors, slights, and other bad acts. Ethical people make up for their bad acts on their own -- no imaginary deities needed; when possible, they make amends or reparation directly to the people affected by their bad acts. IMO, Christians who practice only substitutional atonement are NOT moral.
Where did you get that definition of sin? If you don't believe in a God, then how can you define morality? Who defines what is right or wrong?
You haven't actually learned anything since coming here at all, have you?
Otherwise, how can you reset to "without God there is no morality"?
What is your support for this assertion? Why do you believe morality requires a parental figure for rational people to behave morally?
Why do most serial killers have faith in God, and why with their knowledge of God is does morality seem not to exist?
Gary Ridgeway, Pentecostal Christian, murdered 60 women.
Pedro Alonzo Lopez, Christian, murdered and occasionally raped more than 350 children.
Jeffrey Dahmer, at least 17 victims, Christian.
John Wayne Gacy, raped and murdered more than 33 children.
Albert Fish, Christian, beaten at St. John's orphanage before going on to murder and cannibalize multiple children.
Ted Bundy, Mormon. 36 or more victims.
