The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?

[John V]

Could be, and were that the case, temporal relationships would appear to be at least indescribable in the same terms that apply to the temporal universe.

Regardless of what LL meant, there are inflationary cosmological models that don't require singularity. I lean towards singularity being a mathematical oddity of an incomplete model rather than being a feature of reality. Of course I don't claim to know one way or the other.

Yes, there are models other than the singularity, but they're less accepted and lead to the same issues as the singularity, so I just use singularity.

A couple weeks ago some new evidence supporting the singularity was announced, though it is nowhere near conclusive at this point.

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A singularity is a very strange mathematical and philosophical beast. A true Big Bang-type singularity is essentially a non-conscious deity: existent but having no beginning, not created but having all existent things arise from it etc.

If there is something intrinsic to all matter that allows for some kind of consciousness, then I'd say a singularity is dangerously close to a Deity. I don't know how you'd ever determine at what level mind is matter, or supervenes on forms of matter, or kinds of matter, or only on specific kinds of information flow, etc. This is because we only know of one form, one kind of matter, and one kind of information flow that gives consciousness-- our own.

If the singularity existed eternally, then the big bang, I see two options: it was acted on by an outside force, i.e. a god; or, it decided (so to speak) to explode on its own, which leads to some form of deism or pantheism, which seems to be what you're speaking of above.