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This deity murdered none, but killed many. He doesn't kill for fun, but in justice. Hitler is judged by humans in the light of war. War crimes are just that.. unjust actions in war.

Hilter kills for political reasons - he's a monster.

God kills for religious reasons - he's just.

It's all what side of the fence you're on. I'm guessing some Nazis don't disagree with Hitler's course of action either.

The group of people (Nazis) thought it lawful to kill, where the rest of the world/ the balance of majority view judged that to be unlawful.

God kills justly. Your reconstruction is inaccurate.

Gods law is known and fixed. God can't violate this law, or we'd have to redefine 'just'.

Why is God bound to a law? Why can't he violate it?

Because that would be illogical. You're invoking the impossible God again... which is an illogical consideration.

God's law is also 'within us' (biblical reference), so we can know if that pans out.

What?

It's stated many times in the bible... just so's you understand the reference here, and how it relates to humanity.

To say that the God of the bible is unjust, is to say our own sense of justice is wrong. I trust that my sense of justice is correct, and I trust that the God of the bible is just.

How does one idea of justice equal the other? I do say the God of the Bible is unjust, and the way I can make this assertion is exactly because our concepts of justice and morality have evolved past those portrayed in the Bible. We (western society) don't embrace slavery, don't treat women as property, don't burn witches, don't stone people to death, and don't kill people for not believing or practicing the same religion we practice. This is an example of how secular ideals set straight the backwards laws and morals practiced and promoted by the God of the Bible.

To think justice is unchanging is to misunderstand how societal values change over time.

If you look at what the bible says you'll see that God's justice matches your own there. You are of course twisting the truth to arrive at those conclusions. Secular ideals are fluid, and cause the injustices you cite (hence Nazi injustice).

Anything else would require a complete rewrite of justice as we know it, and ultimately makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense. We don't attribute justice to a divine deity, and don't expect our problems to magically go away by something that judges us by a set of rules that it doesn't even follow. Let's be realistic.

To say the God of the Bible is just would be to say that there would be a situation where mass infanticide would be OK.

Christians do attribute justice to God, and don't use God to negate their own responsibilities. You're straying into fantasy land again. LMAO @ 'realistic'

Lets factor in a timeless God, who would know the lives of said infants and their descendants. Couldn't he judge that it was merciful to end their lives? It's a question unanswerable by us, other than we know God to be just, and can trust in his actions.

If your law says it's legal, then it's legal, and not murder. Like I said... all instances of God taking life are just taking of life, and not unjust, for the reasons already stated.

OK, so because God says it's just, that makes it OK?

Does murder not equal murder if it's God who mandates it?

How about rape? Infanticide? Torture?

This is a bit disturbing, as you're conflating legality with morality. Even moreso when you mention that it's OK for a deity whose existence you can't demonstrate to kill others without question.

No, because we can know that God is just.

God never mandates murder, only legal taking of life.

Likewise rape, infanticide & torture... God cannot condone that which is contradictory to his nature. That would be impossible.

Lets consider nature. Nature doesn't function on morality, but on natural law, some of which we don't yet understand. In nature, death, and sometimes death by horrible means is a fact of life. The law that determines death is ultimately a positive one. We consider it neither good nor bad... but really it's good... because it is what life is based upon.