RE: How did god create the universe?
April 20, 2014 at 12:59 am
(This post was last modified: April 20, 2014 at 1:26 am by Wyrd of Gawd.)
(April 18, 2014 at 7:56 am)professor Wrote: God made the world with WORDS.
This is one reason why we will give account for every useless word, and by our words we will be justified or by our words we will be condemned.
That's the magic spell theory.
(April 19, 2014 at 9:35 am)Freedom of thought Wrote:
But when a god uses magic to speak the universe into existence, you're fine with that? If the universe is a magic trick, it's simpler for it to be a self sustained magic trick than to propose an even more complex magician to cause it to happen. Anyway, most atheists do not believe the universe came from nothing, we normally claim physical reality always existed, or that it came from some sort of quantum state. Saying "oh, but it makes more sense than it coming from nothing" is a straw man, because it's your own theological beliefs that the universe came from nothing.
The reality is that the universe as we know it did come from nothing. But the elements that we all know and love were created over time and they did not exist when the creation process began. Our main stumbling block is that we simply don't fully understand the properties of Nothing. It's almost impossible to even conceive what it is (or what it isn't).
People think that things have always existed because we claim that what we see in space is about 14 billion years old. But we know that stuff is constantly being created, even within our own merging galaxy. But what's being created now is much more complex than the original source material. We have no idea how long it took Nothing to produce strings, which produced the next building block and so on. The universe might be infinite. We will never know but it seems reasonable that it is because how can Nothing ever have a limit?