(April 20, 2014 at 8:48 am)Cato Wrote: I think some here are being a little uncharitable when reading Haywood's responses. Nowhere was he equivocating atheism and racism. He clearly doesn't have an issue with an atheist themed vanity plate by virtue of the fact that one of his two options is to allow any combination of characters.
I think his argument that the state has an interest in preventing vandalism based on a state sponsored display, although a reasonable proposition, is misplaced based on the fact that states are on record stating that the censorship is based on decency, good taste and the desire not to offend. At any rate, construing Haywood's argument to mean he is worried about the physical integrity of the plate itself or that he claims atheism incites violence or unrest is a little bizarre.
I'll be interested to see how this case unfolds. I hope the courts take the opportunity to weigh in on the nuanced first amendment issue at stake and not simply rule on the religious discrimination angle.
That's why I clarified. I realize he wasn't equivocating the two, but my issue with what he said was making atheism responsible for the idiocy of bigots. This isn't about a tag that reads "GODSUX" or "FUCKGOD" or something like that. This is about a tag that simply says "8THEIST." It's not provocative in any way. If I were to get assaulted by a theist for saying publicly that there is no such thing as a god, is that my fault for provoking? Or is that the fault of the person who attacked me (and btw as a result got his ass kicked) for believing differently?
I just don't see the nuance in it. You allow things that aren't provocative. I don't see any reason why a statement of belief (or lack thereof) should be disallowed.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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