Objective vs Subjective Morals

[MindForgedManacle]

As far as I can tell, morals aren't something that are "out there" to be discovered i.e. they don't seem to be objective. And until a proof is given that they actually are, it can only mean that the theist is working from a subjective framework, just like the rest of us.

Theists aren't the only ones who are moral realists. 72% of philosophers are atheists, and 59% of philosophers are moral realists.

And saying that because one goes about morality through a certain framework they choose that morality is therefore subjective is silly. That would entail that everything else (mathematics, logic, science) are equally as subjective, as you do that in those fields too.