(April 22, 2014 at 11:18 pm)Metalogos Wrote: As far as my claim that there is wisdom and order in the universe, I am speaking of the myriad manifestations of nature that show intelligence, chief amongst those would be you, I'm sure, and a methodical arrangement of elements that result in harmonious entities like human beings, ants, and snowflakes.
Sure, sure. The universe is awe inspiring. Without a doubt. But when you observe how everything fits so well together, you're not seeing evidence of intention. You're seeing something structurally essential about the nature of reality itself.
Did you see that meme -was it in this thread?- of a puddle exclaiming how well its hole fit it .. almost as though it had been designed with him in mind. Like the puddle, I think you are imagining a tailor where really what we're seeing is a non-arbitrary, inborn fit between the parts of a whole.
(April 22, 2014 at 11:18 pm)Metalogos Wrote: Please, I am not arguing here for intelligent design. I'm simply saying there is intelligence and exquisite order in the universe.
Absolutely. Both. But the second need not be an effect of the first.
