(April 24, 2014 at 5:38 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Instead of advancing arguments for the existence of God, the Presuppositionalist simply assumes it as granted. They assume, therefore, that atheists must assume God does not exist in order to formulate arguments, and reject any argument that does not presuppose <God Exists> as invalid.If I am understanding correctly, the PA is claiming that simply having the discussion is proof of god, and therefore you prove god exists by making any argument at all. So the obvious retort is... none at all. This works on any number of levels, the most important being that you waste as little time with him as possible and can get on to more productive endeavors, such as... just about anything else.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
