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A question about Truth
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RE: A question about Truth
(April 30, 2014 at 11:39 am)MindForgedManacle Wrote: Correspondence theories of truth are my game. Basically, truth (as correspondence) is that truth is a property of propositions which correspond to a given state of affairs.

Rasetsu, thanks but Wikipedia was not very helpful.

Avicenna: "the veridical belief in the existence [of something]"
Claiming the belief is true does not mean the belief is true.

Aquinas: "Truth is the conformity of the intellect to the things."
Assumes the existence of the things.

Kant: "consists in the agreement of cognition with its object"
Assumes the existence of the object

Hegel: "Teleological truth moves itself in the three-step form of dialectical triplicity toward the final goal of perfect, absolute, truth."
It's all in the plan.

Wikipedia on Schopenhauer: "if judgment is to be an expression of knowledge, it must have a sufficient reason or ground by which the judgment could be called true"
Evidence fails via the problem of induction.

Wikipedia on Kirkegaard: "a human being cannot find truth separate from the subjective experience of one's own existing"
OK, the objective truth doesn't exist. I'm tight with that.

Wicks on Nietzsche: ' "truth" is nothing more than the invention of fixed conventions for merely practical purposes'
Existence of Truth not asserted.

Whitehead: "There are no whole truths"
Really short entry. I'm willing to accept 'whole truths' as objective, external truths.

Nishida: "knowledge of things in the world begins with the differentiation of unitary consciousness into knower and known and ends with self and things becoming one again"
Kind of too mystical for me. How do you resolve units when adding "knower and known?

Wikipedia on Fromm: "trying to discuss truth as "absolute truth" is sterile"
There is no there there.

Foucalt: "He prefers not to use the term truth itself"
Ok, it's still not there.

Baudrillard: considered truth to be largely simulated, that is pretending to have something
We can pretend to have Truth

Consider the following as a plot synopsis for a work of fiction.
There is a very complex and essentially immortal intellect. Let's call it a god.
That god is really bored with effective immortality in the fifth dimensional time it inhabits. It goes to its local (equivalent of) Rekall Incorporated and buys (the equivalent of) a memory implant. In this case it is a trip to our universe as simulation (cue the laughing and pointing at the unsophisticated solipsist), a very complex video game/RPG. Somewhere in here there is a victory condition.......

OH HELL There's nothing I've ever thought of that somebody hasn't gotten there first...and in detail. Just found it.
Simulated Reality on Wikipedia

Sorry
Emily Litella, "Never mind."
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? Huh
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Messages In This Thread
A question about Truth - by JuliaL - April 30, 2014 at 1:16 am
RE: A question about Truth - by bennyboy - April 30, 2014 at 2:28 am
RE: A question about Truth - by JuliaL - April 30, 2014 at 9:45 am
RE: A question about Truth - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 4, 2014 at 8:29 am
RE: A question about Truth - by Angrboda - April 30, 2014 at 10:50 am
RE: A question about Truth - by MindForgedManacle - April 30, 2014 at 11:39 am
RE: A question about Truth - by JuliaL - May 1, 2014 at 9:58 am
RE: A question about Truth - by Coffee Jesus - May 3, 2014 at 9:04 am
RE: A question about Truth - by bennyboy - May 3, 2014 at 10:45 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by Whateverist - May 3, 2014 at 11:44 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by bennyboy - May 4, 2014 at 8:21 am
RE: A question about Truth - by Whateverist - May 4, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: A question about Truth - by bennyboy - May 4, 2014 at 6:39 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by Coffee Jesus - May 4, 2014 at 10:00 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by Coffee Jesus - May 4, 2014 at 12:19 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by Whateverist - May 4, 2014 at 1:25 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by MindForgedManacle - May 4, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by bennyboy - May 5, 2014 at 4:35 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by Coffee Jesus - May 5, 2014 at 5:45 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by bennyboy - May 5, 2014 at 6:50 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by MindForgedManacle - May 5, 2014 at 5:42 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by bennyboy - May 5, 2014 at 6:37 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by Coffee Jesus - May 5, 2014 at 6:47 pm

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