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A question about Truth
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RE: A question about Truth
(April 30, 2014 at 2:28 am)bennyboy Wrote: As far as people are considered, the only knowable truth is the stuff which is established by the context of our existence.

For example, I know it's true that gravity makes stuff fall. In this context, truth is defined by a body of memories, and of the ability to currently validate it by picking up a rock. Is the rock "really" there? Yes, as an experience. No, as I experience it. Maybe not, as an object with an existence independent of my experience of it.

Take a hammer. In the context of everyday life, a hammer is (sometimes dangerously) real. In the context of spacetime and quantum mechanics, the hammer as I experience it-- solid, flat, shiny-- doesn't really exist-- I'm really looking at 99.9999999% empty space, and the surface uniformity is an illusion.

In the context of ultimate truth, then the only answer is-- who knows? We don't have access to that.


So I'd say, yes there's truth, but no truth that can be independent of some context. Relativity ftw.

It's good because you support your own thesis through your example (knowingly, I presume, for you Benny).

I refer to your point regarding gravity, and the truth of knowing that a given item will fall once dropped.

Of course, the truth of the statement 'it will fall' is entirely subjective depending on the understanding and relative position a given observer has in the universe.

Fall to earth? If one is on or in a position relative to the earth to observe such an occurrence. But we know gravity is simply the result of a mass inhabiting a region of space time. No mass would indicate no fall, so the perception of truth changes, but is no less accurate as a result. A you say, context.
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A question about Truth - by JuliaL - April 30, 2014 at 1:16 am
RE: A question about Truth - by bennyboy - April 30, 2014 at 2:28 am
RE: A question about Truth - by JuliaL - April 30, 2014 at 9:45 am
RE: A question about Truth - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 4, 2014 at 8:29 am
RE: A question about Truth - by Angrboda - April 30, 2014 at 10:50 am
RE: A question about Truth - by MindForgedManacle - April 30, 2014 at 11:39 am
RE: A question about Truth - by JuliaL - May 1, 2014 at 9:58 am
RE: A question about Truth - by Coffee Jesus - May 3, 2014 at 9:04 am
RE: A question about Truth - by bennyboy - May 3, 2014 at 10:45 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by Whateverist - May 3, 2014 at 11:44 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by bennyboy - May 4, 2014 at 8:21 am
RE: A question about Truth - by Whateverist - May 4, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: A question about Truth - by bennyboy - May 4, 2014 at 6:39 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by Coffee Jesus - May 4, 2014 at 10:00 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by Coffee Jesus - May 4, 2014 at 12:19 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by Whateverist - May 4, 2014 at 1:25 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by MindForgedManacle - May 4, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by bennyboy - May 5, 2014 at 4:35 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by Coffee Jesus - May 5, 2014 at 5:45 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by bennyboy - May 5, 2014 at 6:50 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by MindForgedManacle - May 5, 2014 at 5:42 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by bennyboy - May 5, 2014 at 6:37 pm
RE: A question about Truth - by Coffee Jesus - May 5, 2014 at 6:47 pm

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