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Objective vs Subjective Morals
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RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals
(April 30, 2014 at 11:22 am)alpha male Wrote: Because the selection of the framework is itself subjective.

Eh, so? Clearly you didn't read the post I mentioned, because I rebut that claim, and it's rather simple to show that you don't actually believe that with a simple reductio, or at least that you're blatantly inconsistent if you do:

In science, mathematics and even logic itself, you must (and we indeed do) select frameworks under which to work. For logic, I can even select frameworks where contradictions are allowed (pararaconsistent logic), or select logics which deal with possibility ane necessity (modal logic). For physics, does one wish to work under classical mechanics or quantum mechanics? For math, Euclidean or non-Euclidean geometries?

The reductio is rather simple: If you believe ethics is subjective simply because you must select a framework to work under, you are being inconsistent unless you believe the EXACT same thing about the entirety of mathematics, science and even logic.

Quote:Sometimes people don't bother challenging when the answer is so obvious.

Well I hope yours wasn't the answer the others were going to give because it did was silly.
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Objective vs Subjective Morals - by FallentoReason - April 22, 2014 at 7:11 am
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by truthBtold - April 22, 2014 at 7:14 am
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by Jacob(smooth) - April 22, 2014 at 7:34 am
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by MindForgedManacle - April 22, 2014 at 12:17 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by FallentoReason - April 22, 2014 at 10:17 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by bennyboy - April 22, 2014 at 12:25 pm
Objective vs Subjective Morals - by Rampant.A.I. - April 22, 2014 at 4:19 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by John V - April 22, 2014 at 4:29 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by bennyboy - April 22, 2014 at 5:30 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by John V - April 23, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by bennyboy - April 23, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by John V - April 24, 2014 at 8:54 am
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by DeistPaladin - April 24, 2014 at 9:57 am
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by DeistPaladin - April 23, 2014 at 6:26 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by MindForgedManacle - April 23, 2014 at 12:23 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by Neo-Scholastic - April 23, 2014 at 1:02 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by ManMachine - April 23, 2014 at 7:49 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by max-greece - April 24, 2014 at 10:44 am
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by bennyboy - April 24, 2014 at 5:30 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by Coffee Jesus - April 24, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by bennyboy - April 24, 2014 at 11:33 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by Coffee Jesus - April 25, 2014 at 12:04 am
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by max-greece - April 25, 2014 at 12:24 am
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by bennyboy - April 25, 2014 at 6:09 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by Coffee Jesus - April 25, 2014 at 8:30 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by Coffee Jesus - April 24, 2014 at 11:05 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by Coffee Jesus - April 25, 2014 at 12:44 am
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by max-greece - April 25, 2014 at 12:53 am
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by Coffee Jesus - April 25, 2014 at 1:51 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by Angrboda - April 25, 2014 at 2:41 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by Coffee Jesus - April 25, 2014 at 2:49 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by archangle - April 26, 2014 at 8:14 am
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by MindForgedManacle - April 27, 2014 at 8:31 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by John V - April 30, 2014 at 11:22 am
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by bennyboy - May 3, 2014 at 10:49 pm
RE: Objective vs Subjective Morals - by MindForgedManacle - May 5, 2014 at 11:58 am

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