RE: I believe in God: So Debate me
May 5, 2014 at 12:33 pm
(This post was last modified: May 5, 2014 at 12:36 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(May 4, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: 1. I was never raised to believe in the god I believe.
You never believed in the God of Abraham prior to adopting Islam? I may have to call shenanigans.
(May 4, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: 2. I do not differentiate shit.
You should.
(May 4, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: 3. I do not even believe in "supernatural entities"
That would make you an atheist, since God cannot be defined as a 'natural entitiy' and remain God.
(May 4, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: 4. Coincidentally the god I believe in has nothing to do with anything I was ever taught.
Shenanigans still pending.
(May 4, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: 5. You assume to much and are thus objectively stupid.
You claim too much.
(May 4, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: 6. You are worthless and if eugenics was brought back you would be the first to go.
That's an awful thing to say, but the sort of thing I often see Muslims posting, so your conversion seems to have been thorough.
(May 4, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: I have been a Christian, Hindu and Muslim in the past although my brush with Hinduism was more intellectual and I have only truly been a Christian and a Muslim.
Shenanigans. Although they have confused the hell out of the original concept, the God of Christianity is the same God as the God of Islam, just understood differently. It is fatuous for an ex-Christian to claim that they were never raised to believe in the God of Islam. There's a reason why they're both referred to as Abrahamic religions.
(May 4, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: I never said god is objectivelly called Allah it is just the fact that the world Allah is unisex. Al-ilah is male and al-Ilaha is female and Allah is unisex. It is just the best word possible to remove gender. Sikhs use the word Allah, as do Christians and Muslims. But Allah is a pagan name with pagan connotations.
That's nice, but how do you know the God you believe in is real and the gods the Hindus believe in aren't, regardless of the name used?
(May 4, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: I have never asked for any credence from you. I am not exactly asking for inferior biological units to acknowledge me so I sure as hell do not care about your concerns towards my convictions.
Then perhaps you should not have started this thread.
(May 4, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: Why do multiple hypothesis exist for the Abiogenesis process? Why do multiple models and theories exist to explain it?
Because there is not enough evidence yet to conclude which model is the correct one.
(May 4, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: Why do multiple religions exist to explain God(who I dubbed Allah)?
Because you can make up anything you want about an imaginary being and it won't correct you.
(May 4, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: I have only concluded 5 things about God
1. All religions are wrong
This seems highly likely.
(May 4, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: 2. Only Natural Theologies hold actual understanding of god
Under the presumption that there is a God to understand.
(May 4, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: 3. Each of these natural theologies should be taken as theoretical approaches to the Divinity Dilemma.
In the qolloquial sense of theory as 'educated guess', okay. In the sense of 'being based on falsifiable hypotheses', no.
(May 4, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: 4. My own(along with others) theology seems the most plausible.
Plausible to you, personally. Implausible to many other people.
(May 4, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: 5. Because of it's plausibility I apply it to the natural world.
What makes it so plausible?
(May 5, 2014 at 12:03 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Totally off-topic, but why do we keep getting theists who act like complete arseholes?
At least this one is up-front about his insults rather than under the mistaken impression that he is being polite.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.