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God - a study in pointlessness.
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RE: God - a study in pointlessness.
(May 8, 2014 at 3:26 pm)ThePinsir Wrote:
(May 8, 2014 at 2:32 pm)Lek Wrote: No. It's our fault for sinning. That isn't the way he created it in the beginning.

Then he created it knowing full-well in advance that we'd sin, and went ahead anyway.

If your god exists, he makes the rules. Furthermore, if there's a rule that says "if humans sin, then they must suffer", then god himself made that rule. He willingly made that rule, then with the foresight that we would fall, went right on ahead with creation. That is, I think, either evil or incompetent.

You're entitled to your opinion. I understand that God (if he exists) doesn't do things the way you think he should.

(May 8, 2014 at 3:50 pm)Tonus Wrote:
(May 8, 2014 at 2:32 pm)Lek Wrote: No. It's our fault for sinning. That isn't the way he created it in the beginning.

If the Genesis stories are allegorical, then you cannot state this with any certainty. If the stories are to be taken literally, then it's not reasonable to fault humanity for what happened. To speak of god as a being of such great power and wisdom and intellect and then pretend that he was so effortlessly bested by the devil and two humans does not make sense.

If God is who or what you think he should be then it doesn't make sense. If we allow him to be who he is then it does.
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God - a study in pointlessness. - by nogodchick - April 26, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Paraselene - April 26, 2014 at 4:43 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Minimalist - April 26, 2014 at 4:45 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by KUSA - April 26, 2014 at 5:23 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by sven - April 26, 2014 at 5:26 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Aisha - April 26, 2014 at 5:42 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by nogodchick - April 27, 2014 at 11:40 am
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by truthBtold - April 27, 2014 at 11:47 am
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Minimalist - April 27, 2014 at 12:23 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Tonus - May 8, 2014 at 1:33 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by pocaracas - April 27, 2014 at 12:31 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by c172 - April 27, 2014 at 1:28 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Lek - May 7, 2014 at 9:43 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Lek - May 8, 2014 at 12:07 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by ThePinsir - May 8, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Lek - May 8, 2014 at 12:37 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Paraselene - May 8, 2014 at 12:40 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Lek - May 8, 2014 at 2:15 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Paraselene - May 8, 2014 at 2:18 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Lek - May 8, 2014 at 2:32 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by ThePinsir - May 8, 2014 at 3:26 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Lek - May 8, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Tonus - May 8, 2014 at 9:41 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Tonus - May 8, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Simon Moon - May 8, 2014 at 4:08 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Lek - May 8, 2014 at 4:38 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Simon Moon - May 8, 2014 at 4:45 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by jesus_wept - May 10, 2014 at 7:10 am
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Ryantology - May 8, 2014 at 4:30 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Heliocentrism - May 13, 2014 at 7:59 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Lek - May 13, 2014 at 8:22 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by The Valkyrie - May 13, 2014 at 8:25 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Rampant.A.I. - May 13, 2014 at 8:28 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Heliocentrism - May 13, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by The Valkyrie - May 13, 2014 at 8:57 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Paraselene - May 13, 2014 at 9:00 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Chas - May 10, 2014 at 8:43 am
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by RobbyPants - May 7, 2014 at 10:48 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by max-greece - May 8, 2014 at 1:26 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Ryantology - May 8, 2014 at 5:11 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Ryantology - May 8, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Ryantology - May 8, 2014 at 2:18 pm
God - a study in pointlessness. - by Rampant.A.I. - May 8, 2014 at 3:20 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Deepthought - May 10, 2014 at 12:25 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Lek - May 10, 2014 at 12:39 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Paraselene - May 10, 2014 at 12:43 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Lek - May 10, 2014 at 1:03 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Paraselene - May 10, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Ryantology - May 10, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Lek - May 10, 2014 at 4:07 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by coldwx - May 10, 2014 at 4:23 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Lek - May 10, 2014 at 4:38 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Ryantology - May 10, 2014 at 5:40 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Ryantology - May 10, 2014 at 4:33 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Chas - May 10, 2014 at 9:39 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Ryantology - May 10, 2014 at 9:45 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Lek - May 11, 2014 at 12:05 am
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 11, 2014 at 12:16 am
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Esquilax - May 11, 2014 at 4:54 am
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Lek - May 11, 2014 at 5:18 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by coldwx - May 11, 2014 at 5:35 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by pocaracas - May 11, 2014 at 5:41 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Lek - May 11, 2014 at 5:58 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by pocaracas - May 11, 2014 at 6:05 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Chas - May 13, 2014 at 6:53 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Ryantology - May 11, 2014 at 6:29 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Tonus - May 11, 2014 at 7:37 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Deepthought - May 11, 2014 at 6:40 am
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Ryantology - May 11, 2014 at 12:55 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 11, 2014 at 1:36 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Deepthought - May 11, 2014 at 3:58 am
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Tonus - May 10, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Lek - May 10, 2014 at 5:34 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Paraselene - May 10, 2014 at 5:43 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Lek - May 10, 2014 at 5:57 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Heliocentrism - May 13, 2014 at 8:26 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Tonus - May 10, 2014 at 10:41 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 11, 2014 at 12:03 am
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Ryantology - May 10, 2014 at 6:33 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Subhan Ahmad - May 10, 2014 at 7:14 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by pocaracas - May 10, 2014 at 7:33 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Subhan Ahmad - May 13, 2014 at 5:59 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Subhan Ahmad - May 14, 2014 at 7:44 am
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Subhan Ahmad - May 13, 2014 at 6:53 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by pocaracas - May 13, 2014 at 7:06 pm
God - a study in pointlessness. - by Rampant.A.I. - May 11, 2014 at 6:46 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Subhan Ahmad - May 13, 2014 at 7:18 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by pocaracas - May 13, 2014 at 7:48 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Subhan Ahmad - May 13, 2014 at 7:54 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by pocaracas - May 13, 2014 at 8:01 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Subhan Ahmad - May 13, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by The Valkyrie - May 13, 2014 at 8:20 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Subhan Ahmad - May 13, 2014 at 8:24 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Rampant.A.I. - May 13, 2014 at 8:26 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by The Valkyrie - May 13, 2014 at 8:29 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Chas - May 13, 2014 at 8:54 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Subhan Ahmad - May 13, 2014 at 8:34 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Paraselene - May 13, 2014 at 8:40 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Subhan Ahmad - May 13, 2014 at 8:51 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Subhan Ahmad - May 13, 2014 at 9:00 pm
God - a study in pointlessness. - by Rampant.A.I. - May 13, 2014 at 9:11 pm
RE: God - a study in pointlessness. - by Subhan Ahmad - May 13, 2014 at 9:15 pm
God - a study in pointlessness. - by Rampant.A.I. - May 13, 2014 at 9:18 pm

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