Christian "purpose" and "meaning" in life.
May 13, 2014 at 6:56 pm
(This post was last modified: May 13, 2014 at 8:23 pm by Rampant.A.I..)
(May 13, 2014 at 4:49 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(May 13, 2014 at 12:27 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Why are you seemingly incapable of absorbing the fact that many people here left religion because repentance didn't make things better?The fact that you are an atheist means that you didn't truly repent. Sorry.
Chad - Not an atheist. Your cursory judgement of my beliefs based on what is presented here fails utterly, and you have continued to claim to know exactly what my beliefs are, and what my specific experiences were.
I may as well assert that you were severely beaten and starved chained to the furnace in the basement as a child until you repented, ignore your objections, and repeat my assertion each time you protest.
(May 13, 2014 at 4:49 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(May 13, 2014 at 1:29 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: That indicates how little you know about real science.Right back at you, Bud. Science has lots of assumptions: homogeneity, causal closure, that physical constants are always constant, etc.
Those are not assumptions, they are inferences, based on the best possible evidence available.
We cannot directly confirm, for example, that Pluto follows the orbit we believe it does, since not only does the planetoid have an erratic orbit, it only completes an orbit around the sun every 243 years. However, we have very reasonably inferred the orbit of Pluto, and the calculations continue to be shown accurate. This inference, by the way, relies on the physical constants you question -- which is patently fucking ridiculous as assuming physics shouldn't be uniform would eject the ability to infer basic predictions in physics that have been repeatedly demonstrated true.
Causal closure is an area of metaphysics of the mind, not even loosely related to physics, so you're reaching to even add that to a "list" that ends in "etc." What etc., you came up with two, one of which doesn't even apply.
It seems you're intent on applying metaphysics and areas of philosophy do not apply to the Applied Sciences themselves, by making these vague appeals to a "rejection" of a metaphysical supernatural realm there is no supporting evidence, nor a compelling argument, nor the possibility of demonstrating it even exists.
And then pretending physical science "rejects" or "is biased against" the existence of a realm of causes completely lacking any sort of empirical evidence, inferred or otherwise, because of some nebulous ephemeral claim backed by nothing
Sorry. You fail again. Science does not, and should not rely on presuppositions of what, for all intents and purposes, amounts to bullshit.
Science aims to discover the empirical, not make you feel better about the beliefs you hold for emotional reasons, despite empirical evidence.
...But being chained to a furnace and severely beaten for all those years as you were, I can see the difficulty in giving up your fantastic coping mechanisms.