(May 13, 2014 at 1:29 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:

(May 13, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Godschild Wrote: today's science assumes things without evidence

That indicates how little you know about real science.

At this point, it's kind of a given that anything GC talks about will indicate how little he knows about that thing.

That's why he has to constantly crow that he knows that god exists, castrating the word "know" in the process by dragging it down to the level of "believe."

(May 12, 2014 at 7:30 am)Brakeman Wrote:

(May 11, 2014 at 7:27 pm)Lek Wrote: He never spoke English words to me. Most of his communication has been through the scriptures.

So he's not a personal god at all to you, he doesn't have time to talk to you in your prayers? Isn't prayer supposed to be communication with god?
Do you otherwise have deep conversations with an unconnected phone? Doesn't it bother you that you never got confirmation that jesus has agreed that you are repentant enough to be worthy of his salvation?
Hell, when I get in a taxi, I won't close the door until I'm sure that the driver is in the front seat and verbally acknowledges me, yet you are so flippant with your eternal life or damnation that you don't even expect a confirmation that you and your priests or whatever have the story correct and have properly complied with the rules god sent unverifiable men thousands of years ago.

Faith does equal gullibility..

The bible is God's word speaking to me. If I believe what Jesus said as recorded in the bible I have already received confirmation. I don't need him to verbally confirm that I'm saved. If you don't believe in him that's you're choice, but you don't need to tell him what he should be and how he should act.

(May 13, 2014 at 3:39 pm)Lek Wrote: If I believe what Jesus said as recorded in the bible I have already received confirmation.

False. It means you have self-deluded yourself.

(May 13, 2014 at 3:39 pm)Lek Wrote: you don't need to tell him what he should be and how he should act.

Then you should not assume a fictional character is real.

(May 13, 2014 at 12:27 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Why are you seemingly incapable of absorbing the fact that many people here left religion because repentance didn't make things better?

The fact that you are an atheist means that you didn't truly repent. Sorry.

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(May 13, 2014 at 1:29 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:

(May 13, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Godschild Wrote: today's science assumes things without evidence

That indicates how little you know about real science.

Right back at you, Bud. Science has lots of assumptions: homogeneity, causal closure, that physical constants are always constant, etc.

(May 13, 2014 at 3:39 pm)Lek Wrote:

(May 12, 2014 at 7:30 am)Brakeman Wrote: So he's not a personal god at all to you, he doesn't have time to talk to you in your prayers? Isn't prayer supposed to be communication with god?
Do you otherwise have deep conversations with an unconnected phone? ..

The bible is God's word speaking to me. If I believe what Jesus said as recorded in the bible I have already received confirmation. I don't need him to verbally confirm that I'm saved. If you don't believe in him that's you're choice, but you don't need to tell him what he should be and how he should act.

So a book that you bought at a five and dime is now considered communication between you and god.

Does a copy of "The taming of the shrew" count as having Shakespeare as a close personal friend?

kidding aside, The prophets and the bible authors could not have had the same method of communication as you, through scripture only, so where does the bible explain that your prayers will be different and that god won't talk to you as he did in all the other examples?

(May 13, 2014 at 4:49 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Science has lots of assumptions

No, science builds its reputation from verifiable, repeatable facts.

Assumptions are the building blocks of religions and faith.

(May 13, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(May 13, 2014 at 12:29 pm)Ksa Wrote: Sure, and you do, by quoting John 3:16 incorrectly, the correct quote is: "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. "

The word begotten was thrown out of the Bible as a fabrication, not by Muslim scholars or Jewish scholars, but by 32 christian scholars, of the highest eminence, backed up by 50 co-operating denominations.

Stay small boy, and learn from your elders

I didn't even read the rest. If you want me to lose my time to read the crap you type, make sure it's accurate or, at the slightest inaccuracy, you will lose my attention span.

So I'm not allowed to paraphrase, how inconsiderate of you, if you choose not to read my post that's okay, but if you are just going to point out perceived mistakes, then it's you who is nothing more than a child with a big self importance complex.

GC

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It's not a perceived mistake, it is a mistake. The word begotten is nowhere found in the original manuscript. You got caught. Don't fight it. It makes the embarrassment worst. You don't know your Bible.

(May 13, 2014 at 4:49 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:

(May 13, 2014 at 12:27 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Why are you seemingly incapable of absorbing the fact that many people here left religion because repentance didn't make things better?

The fact that you are an atheist means that you didn't truly repent. Sorry.

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(May 13, 2014 at 1:29 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: That indicates how little you know about real science.

Right back at you, Bud. Science has lots of assumptions: homogeneity, causal closure, that physical constants are always constant, etc.

Assumptions that actually work in the real world -- that is why we make those assumptions. It's a functionality issue. Religion assumes things that no one can possible know and it clearly does not work at a method to acquire real knowledge -- it works as a method to control people -- that's it.

And Chad -- "really didn't repent" -- the tired old no true xtian fallacy -- I thought you had more class than that. Sorry.

(May 13, 2014 at 4:49 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:

(May 13, 2014 at 12:27 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Why are you seemingly incapable of absorbing the fact that many people here left religion because repentance didn't make things better?

The fact that you are an atheist means that you didn't truly repent. Sorry.

Truly repent? I don't repent at all except for mistakes I have actually made. And for those, I apologize and make amends to those I have wronged.

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(May 13, 2014 at 1:29 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: That indicates how little you know about real science.

Right back at you, Bud. Science has lots of assumptions: homogeneity, causal closure, that physical constants are always constant, etc.

Not assumptions, observations, for which there is plenty of evidence and no counter-examples.

(May 13, 2014 at 4:49 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: The fact that you are an atheist means that you didn't truly repent. Sorry.

Nothing like a good ol' fashioned fallacy to reinforce those beliefs, eh?