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"That's not nothing"
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RE: "That's not nothing"
(May 15, 2014 at 1:31 am)Freedom of thought Wrote: And does that nothingness have that property of logic like non contradiction? Then its not nothing... And Krauss is pretty full of shit on this topic, because he's defining nothing as something, but in his defense he did go further to say that without a quantum vacuum (pretty much nothing) due to the effects of gravity a quantum vacuum can form, but this isn't nothing, because you still had the laws working there. Krauss went even further than that though, he said the laws themselves could be formed by random.

Logic isn't a property to be had. Regardless, "nothingness" as apologists mean isn't anything, it has no properties. You're making use of a linguistic trick here. "Nothingness" is not a referent, it's not a thing. It can't have properties for precisely that reason.
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"That's not nothing" - by Freedom of thought - May 14, 2014 at 10:36 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by Violet - May 14, 2014 at 10:45 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by Marsellus Wallace - May 14, 2014 at 10:54 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by Violet - May 14, 2014 at 10:58 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by Marsellus Wallace - May 14, 2014 at 11:01 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by Violet - May 14, 2014 at 11:06 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 15, 2014 at 5:16 am
RE: "That's not nothing" - by Marsellus Wallace - May 15, 2014 at 11:50 am
RE: "That's not nothing" - by MindForgedManacle - May 14, 2014 at 11:09 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by Marsellus Wallace - May 14, 2014 at 11:16 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by Freedom of thought - May 15, 2014 at 1:31 am
RE: "That's not nothing" - by Mister Agenda - May 15, 2014 at 11:43 am
RE: "That's not nothing" - by pocaracas - May 15, 2014 at 12:07 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by Mister Agenda - May 15, 2014 at 12:23 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by pocaracas - May 15, 2014 at 4:18 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by vorlon13 - May 14, 2014 at 11:22 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by max-greece - May 15, 2014 at 1:11 am
RE: "That's not nothing" - by Freedom of thought - May 15, 2014 at 3:21 am
RE: "That's not nothing" - by Whateverist - May 15, 2014 at 2:00 am
RE: "That's not nothing" - by max-greece - May 15, 2014 at 4:25 am
RE: "That's not nothing" - by StuW - May 15, 2014 at 7:07 am
RE: "That's not nothing" - by Freedom of thought - May 15, 2014 at 7:20 am
RE: "That's not nothing" - by StuW - May 15, 2014 at 7:29 am
RE: "That's not nothing" - by Freedom of thought - May 15, 2014 at 9:24 am
RE: "That's not nothing" - by StuW - May 15, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by Freedom of thought - May 16, 2014 at 11:43 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by pocaracas - May 15, 2014 at 11:41 am
RE: "That's not nothing" - by MindForgedManacle - May 15, 2014 at 12:20 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by Mister Agenda - May 15, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by MindForgedManacle - May 15, 2014 at 12:27 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by MindForgedManacle - May 15, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by Mister Agenda - May 16, 2014 at 11:45 am
RE: "That's not nothing" - by max-greece - May 15, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by MindForgedManacle - May 15, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by max-greece - May 15, 2014 at 1:28 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by MindForgedManacle - May 15, 2014 at 1:31 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by max-greece - May 15, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by MindForgedManacle - May 16, 2014 at 1:18 pm
RE: "That's not nothing" - by bennyboy - May 16, 2014 at 7:12 pm

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