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Prayer Studies
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RE: Prayer Studies
(May 16, 2014 at 10:23 pm)Heywood Wrote: Prayer studies make the assumption that God exists and then proceed to test if God answers prayers. That is why they go to lengths to recruit prayers to actually pray.

No, they don't. Why would you think that?

It is a test of prayer with no assumption of mechanism.

(May 16, 2014 at 10:29 pm)Heywood Wrote:
(May 16, 2014 at 10:27 pm)Losty Wrote: True, but you can't argue that all prayers are scientific except the ones that are 'answered'

I am not arguing prayer works. I am arguing prayer studies are fatally flawed and cannot be relied upon as evidence prayer works or doesn't work.

With that statement you show that you are assuming the existence of god.

Because you are basing your statement of a flaw on a test of the god you are assuming exists. Without a god to be annoyed by the test - no flaw.
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Messages In This Thread
Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 16, 2014 at 9:09 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Sejanus - May 16, 2014 at 9:16 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 16, 2014 at 10:18 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by dafydd - May 17, 2014 at 8:48 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Sejanus - May 17, 2014 at 9:00 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 17, 2014 at 9:21 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Chas - May 17, 2014 at 11:15 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Silver - May 16, 2014 at 9:31 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Minimalist - May 16, 2014 at 9:39 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Chad32 - May 16, 2014 at 9:39 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 16, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Silver - May 16, 2014 at 10:15 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 16, 2014 at 10:23 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Silver - May 16, 2014 at 10:29 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Chas - May 17, 2014 at 12:43 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Ryantology - May 16, 2014 at 11:17 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 16, 2014 at 9:42 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Losty - May 16, 2014 at 10:05 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 16, 2014 at 10:09 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Losty - May 16, 2014 at 10:27 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 16, 2014 at 10:29 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Losty - May 16, 2014 at 11:10 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Chad32 - May 16, 2014 at 10:20 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Minimalist - May 16, 2014 at 10:29 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Anomalocaris - May 17, 2014 at 12:14 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 17, 2014 at 4:20 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Esquilax - May 17, 2014 at 5:34 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 17, 2014 at 5:46 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Esquilax - May 17, 2014 at 5:57 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by jesus_wept - May 17, 2014 at 6:05 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 17, 2014 at 4:36 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 17, 2014 at 2:57 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Esquilax - May 17, 2014 at 3:51 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by max-greece - May 17, 2014 at 3:57 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by jesus_wept - May 17, 2014 at 4:35 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 17, 2014 at 4:38 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by jesus_wept - May 17, 2014 at 4:43 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 17, 2014 at 4:48 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by jesus_wept - May 17, 2014 at 4:52 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 17, 2014 at 4:57 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by jesus_wept - May 17, 2014 at 5:09 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 17, 2014 at 5:16 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by jesus_wept - May 17, 2014 at 5:36 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Chas - May 17, 2014 at 7:06 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by BlackMason - May 17, 2014 at 6:21 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 17, 2014 at 7:29 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Esquilax - May 17, 2014 at 7:49 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 17, 2014 at 8:01 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Esquilax - May 17, 2014 at 8:36 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 17, 2014 at 5:52 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Esquilax - May 18, 2014 at 2:46 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 18, 2014 at 2:22 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Esquilax - May 18, 2014 at 2:30 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 18, 2014 at 2:38 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Esquilax - May 18, 2014 at 2:45 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 18, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Esquilax - May 18, 2014 at 3:02 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 12:12 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Esquilax - May 21, 2014 at 12:13 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Chas - May 21, 2014 at 6:26 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Silver - May 17, 2014 at 9:43 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Bad Wolf - May 17, 2014 at 6:57 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Tonus - May 17, 2014 at 6:26 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 17, 2014 at 7:10 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by rexbeccarox - May 17, 2014 at 11:22 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Tonus - May 18, 2014 at 6:36 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by Cyberman - May 17, 2014 at 11:27 pm
Prayer Studies - by Rampant.A.I. - May 18, 2014 at 12:16 am
RE: Prayer Studies - by JesusHChrist - May 18, 2014 at 1:50 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Chad32 - May 18, 2014 at 3:26 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Elskidor - May 18, 2014 at 2:37 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - May 18, 2014 at 2:42 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by ThePinsir - May 20, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 3:14 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Cato - May 20, 2014 at 3:17 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by ThePinsir - May 20, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by RobbyPants - May 20, 2014 at 4:08 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by Tonus - May 20, 2014 at 4:12 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by jesus_wept - May 20, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: Prayer Studies - by archangle - May 22, 2014 at 3:18 pm

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