RE: Prayer Studies
May 17, 2014 at 5:46 am
(This post was last modified: May 17, 2014 at 5:52 am by Heywood.)
(May 17, 2014 at 5:34 am)Esquilax Wrote:(May 17, 2014 at 4:20 am)Heywood Wrote: This thread isn't about whether prayer works or if my God exists. It is about the prayer studies being fatally flawed.
But you didn't give reasons why the studies are fatally flawed, you gave ad hoc reasons why the concept being tested was unfalsifiable. You demonstrated that prayer is fatally flawed as a concept, not our attempts to study it.
I did give reason....you just ignored them.
1. You cannot guarantee the control group(those to whom prayers are not offered) are not being prayed for by people not involved in the study.
2. You cannot guarantee God will treat "prayers" that are elements of a scientific study the same as genuine prayers.
In short, prayer studies are unreliable because you cannot isolate or control all the variables being studied. There is nothing ad hoc about these reasons. It is simply the reality of the situation.
(May 17, 2014 at 5:36 am)jesus_wept Wrote: Let's be honest here though. The only reason you're trying to say they're flawed is to argue from ignorance and claim we can't prove they don't work therefore they could work.
I said in post 1, sentence 1 of this thread that I don't believe in the power of prayer.....so why should I want to say they could work?
I could care less if you believe in prayer of if you don't. I am more interested in if you believe in prayer studies or you don't. If you believe prayer can be studied scientifically....you're a bit thick in the head in my opinion cause it is obvious such studies are flawed from the start.
