RE: Panpsychism is not as crazy as it sounds.
May 17, 2014 at 4:46 pm
(This post was last modified: May 17, 2014 at 5:09 pm by MJ the Skeptical.)
(May 17, 2014 at 3:31 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:(May 17, 2014 at 2:43 pm)Godslayer Wrote: Thanks, that's why I edited my post, buddy. Why don't you quote what I re-wrote. I took two minutes to edit my words around and a few minutes later you respond. Give the post at least 5 minutes to sit a bit, that'd be nice.
I'll put what I re-wrote here so you don't have to go on page 5.
Clearly minds are sparse in the cosmos so it's just bullshit to claim you are surrounded by them other than beings with brains. If you want to essentially call every object conscious, or smaller yet, every particle conscious, you're free to be wrong.
This comes down to being pseudoscience when analyzed. People want to cling to ideas like Panpsychism or Panantheism or interesting ideas in Quantum Physics to keep their beliefs of divinity "conscious"
I didn't know about the five minute rule, buddy.
I don't think panpsychism is a scientific position, but a philosophical one. Science, though it has made tremendous progress in understanding the brain, hasn't really figured out the ontological gap that still exists between matter and mind, that is how one brings about the other which then in turn comes to understand itself, to contain a map of a gigantic Universe, which includes the brain itself, inside it. That's still a mystery. And one that scientific as well as philosophical speculation, from the functionalists to the panpsychists, try to fill in the gaps, to varying success. But to flat out deny any possible basis for eventually establishing or falsifying the "interesting ideas in QP" or theories of consciousness, by just dismissing them, seems naive.
"That'd be nice" = A rule?
And you're right, it's has no scientific backing and therefore is pseudoscience. Philosophical positions still need evidence to some degree to be taken seriously. You're obviously wrong about the mind gap, the brain is the physical medium for the mind. The mind is an emergent property of the brain. One Neuron on it's own does nothing, but gather enough neurons together and you've got a network of neurons making chemical reactions and forming a mind. That's why we can look at the neurons of other animals and see they have the same activity, just less of it.
If the hypothetical idea of an afterlife means more to you than the objectively true reality we all share, then you deserve no respect.



