RE: Prayer Studies
May 17, 2014 at 9:21 pm
(This post was last modified: May 17, 2014 at 9:24 pm by Heywood.)
(May 17, 2014 at 8:48 pm)dafydd Wrote:(May 16, 2014 at 10:18 pm)Heywood Wrote: I don't have a problem with atheists making claims like this. However if you claim prayer studies prove prayer doesn't work....you're a bit thick in the head in my opinion.
Do you have any evidence that prayer studies prove that praying works?
This isn't a thread about whether or not prayer works....stop trying to move the goal post as so many others in this forum have already tried to do.
This is a thread about the scientific validity of prayer studies. Do not conflate that efficacy of prayer with methodology. They are separate and quite distinct things.
(May 17, 2014 at 9:00 pm)Sejanus Wrote:(May 17, 2014 at 8:48 pm)dafydd Wrote: Do you have any evidence that prayer studies prove that praying works?
He's saying that prayer studies can't say anything definitive about prayers, so your comment makes no sense. However, he only came to that conclusion by, as others have said before me, presupposing a god exists and has known motives. Instead of using prayer studies to prove prayers don't exist, I suggested that the god in question simply doesn't exist; therefore prayers don't work, no study needed.
Prayer studies pre-suppose God exists...and then presuppose they can control said God....which is what I find ludicrous about them.
