RE: Does it make sense to speak of "Universal Consciousness" or "Universal Intelligence"?
May 19, 2014 at 12:20 pm
No. We have no good reason to even think consciousness is related to QM at this point. The development of QM has not been improved at all by trying to inject consciousness into it. This is especially obvious when you see that of those whom experts in "Quantum Foundations" (what QM means), only 6% of the 42% who hold to the Copenhagen interpretation accept that consciousness causes collapse.
It's all well and good for Penrose and Hammeroff to posit Orch-OR, but this quickly makes the conversation masturbation. The reason being that I can quote numerous, prestigious experts who would be more inclined toward my position and emphatically reject the idea of consciousness' involvement. But really, are we going to play the game of "my expert can kick your expert's ass!" in an area where there isn't even a consensus?
It's all well and good for Penrose and Hammeroff to posit Orch-OR, but this quickly makes the conversation masturbation. The reason being that I can quote numerous, prestigious experts who would be more inclined toward my position and emphatically reject the idea of consciousness' involvement. But really, are we going to play the game of "my expert can kick your expert's ass!" in an area where there isn't even a consensus?
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