RE: I'll show you a real Christian
May 24, 2014 at 7:42 pm
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2014 at 7:50 pm by BlackMason.)
(May 24, 2014 at 4:37 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: For your attention blackmason: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
The OP did not commit a 'no true Scotsman' fallacy.
I guess I'll have to explain using my interpretation. The title "I'll show you a real christian", which is subsequently accompanied by a picture of an empty room, is making a claim that there are no real christians. This could be for whatever reason but the position I took was because none apply the bible 100% all the time. So effectively the OP is saying no true christians exist because they don't act the way the bible says they should act. This is in line with that wiki link that you supplied. Are you following my train of thought? So just as the quote you gave states that instead of denying a counter example, it is excluded entirely. The empty room is tantemount to excluding said counter example except in this case it is all christians.
If that was a bit difficult to grasp I'll repeat informally. The no true scotsman fallacy is really saying that it is illogical to say a member of a group can't act in a given way. For example a christian can't doubt christ. Why not? There is nothing preventing the christian from doubting. It is well with in the christians abilities or actions to doubt. I think you're not getting the actual principle as your application is too rigid.
(May 24, 2014 at 4:37 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Also, i'm really wondering if you are a poe. Religious views: fuck him? And you use phrases like 'the truth of my words' and you seem to get very upset at the idea of the OP 'trolling' Christianity.
Trust me I'm not a troll. Check my rep. I'm endorsed by Robbypants who knows me from another site. What's a poe by the way?
Anyway I guess an apology is in order. I made the mistake of assuming that this forum worked the same way as the other one I'm a member of. Guess not. So to be clear trolling is welcome here?
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