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Shooting in California
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RE: Shooting in California
Also, anyone notice that shortly after the deinstitutionalization bullshit, violent crime in this country started going up? Correlation doesn't equal causation but it's something worth mulling over.

"Treat them in the community!"

Yeah! Let's let schizophrenics, psychopaths, and people with obvious sociopathic tendencies wander around openly and freely society without treatment, close observation, evaluation, and/or intervention and expect that they'll just get help by themselves when most of the time they don't think there's anything wrong with what they're thinking! How's that working for us?

Ohh...

...Not great, huh?

But hey, at least they're living on their own and not costing the taxpayers their precious fucking pennies-a-year-per-person to keep them in a medical environment where their issues are managed, treated, or at the very least mitigated, right? Who cares that a huge percentage of untreated schizophrenics end up committing suicide, an even vaster percentage end up homeless, babbling to their hallucinatory voices with no connection to the real world left to even realize what kind of situation they're in, or that schizophrenics by and large tend to have higher likelihoods of violent episodes? As long as it's NIMBY and we can spend those pennies on the American past-time of dropping pennies on the ground to the fullest extent, it's all A-OK. Because hey; we don't wanna treat someone else's problem until it becomes our own! And oh so many times it becomes our own! And yet we still don't fucking learn.

Deputies went to this psychopath's apartment after his relatives alerted the police and he had been posting Youtube videos explicitly stating his desires and plans to kill others and himself. He only had to tell them it was a "misunderstanding," and ta-da! Psychopath kept his civil liberties! Granted, those civil liberties of his cost six innocent girls their lives, but hey! As long as we protect the rights of people who are fucked in the head, right?

This coming from a guy who has a laundry list of emotional and personality disorders. If institutionalization was a thing, and I had to be taken into an institution for a year to address and treat at least some of them, I'd be happy to get psychiatric and psychological treatment at no cost to me. It'd be the only way I could, in fact; I sure as fuck don't have the money to go through the years of outpatient treatment I'm gonna need to go through to deal with all my ghosts and demons.

Look, I'm just saying, the hands-off approach to mental illnesses is not fucking working, and this massacre is a fine fucking example. My schizo roomie is another prime example. He's barely in touch with reality and in the year and a half I've known him, I've only seen his mental state slowly declining further and his grip on reality is slipping steadily, and he refuses to get treatment on his own because of a myriad of delusional reasons that, were he, well, sane, he wouldn't actually believe. Three months inpatient care, voluntary or not, would help get his head at least somewhat straight and give him some kind of clarity and a grasp on reality and himself again. But no, no, we gotta respect his wishes to not get help, never mind that him not getting help may very well result in someone's death, be it his or someone else's, never mind that he needs treatment and doesn't actually know it, or believe it. He's a threat to himself but because "suicide" hasn't been mentioned yet, it's nobody's problem.

MAKES PERFECT FUCKING SENSE, RIGHT?
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Shooting in California - by Sejanus - May 25, 2014 at 3:09 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Minimalist - May 25, 2014 at 3:48 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 25, 2014 at 4:10 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Lemonvariable72 - May 25, 2014 at 5:29 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by max-greece - May 25, 2014 at 4:21 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Napoléon - May 25, 2014 at 6:20 am
RE: Shooting in California - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 25, 2014 at 6:26 am
RE: Shooting in California - by max-greece - May 25, 2014 at 7:46 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Brakeman - May 25, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Nine - May 25, 2014 at 8:59 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Anomalocaris - May 25, 2014 at 6:25 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by sven - May 25, 2014 at 5:28 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Silver - May 25, 2014 at 9:15 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Nine - May 25, 2014 at 9:30 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 25, 2014 at 7:13 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 25, 2014 at 7:55 am
Re: RE: Shooting in California - by KUSA - May 25, 2014 at 10:14 am
RE: Shooting in California - by zebo-the-fat - May 25, 2014 at 12:49 pm
Shooting in California - by Rampant.A.I. - May 25, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Napoléon - May 25, 2014 at 2:07 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 25, 2014 at 7:25 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by sven - May 25, 2014 at 2:27 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 25, 2014 at 1:18 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Napoléon - May 25, 2014 at 1:58 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Marsellus Wallace - May 25, 2014 at 1:26 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Creed of Heresy - May 25, 2014 at 1:44 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Faith No More - May 25, 2014 at 2:37 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Autumnlicious - May 25, 2014 at 1:59 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Creed of Heresy - May 25, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Creed of Heresy - May 25, 2014 at 2:17 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Brian37 - May 25, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Faith No More - May 25, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by paulpablo - May 25, 2014 at 3:30 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Nine - May 25, 2014 at 4:04 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by FlyingNarwhal - May 25, 2014 at 4:11 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Autumnlicious - May 25, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Nine - May 25, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by FreeTony - May 25, 2014 at 4:22 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Nine - May 25, 2014 at 4:31 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Autumnlicious - May 25, 2014 at 4:35 pm
Shooting in California - by Rampant.A.I. - May 25, 2014 at 5:06 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by professor - May 25, 2014 at 5:48 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Creed of Heresy - May 26, 2014 at 6:00 am
RE: Shooting in California - by The Valkyrie - May 26, 2014 at 9:29 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Minimalist - May 25, 2014 at 6:11 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Mudhammam - May 26, 2014 at 6:19 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Creed of Heresy - May 26, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Mudhammam - May 26, 2014 at 9:52 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Creed of Heresy - May 26, 2014 at 6:20 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Chas - May 26, 2014 at 8:47 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Napoléon - May 26, 2014 at 10:08 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Chas - May 26, 2014 at 10:12 pm

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