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Shooting in California
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RE: Shooting in California
(May 25, 2014 at 1:59 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: I hope you enjoy more Sandyhook incidents, Creed.

Because America is not going to solve the fundamental problems that enable crime and aggression towards everyone else. It is easy to regulate who purchases firearms and what they do with it and if they are of good character and history to own it.

It is difficult to force someone to pay people a living wage that ensures that they're not desperate or living in an area that continually encourages crime.

It is also difficult, as you have seen, to get health care into common access. If we had so much shit thrown over getting universal healthcare or a shitty approximation thereof, what makes you think that we could solve a whole collection of factors that enable violent crime?

Until then, changing one thing should reduce slightly this problem because we are all too fucking immature to solve a collection of root problems.

I would like to keep guns out of the hands of clearly unstable and immature tools.

I find it funny that you would prefer the opposite.

Dammit, Moros, stop trumping me at realism.

*sighs*

The sad fact of it is, you are right. We both are. This apathetic bloody [no pun intended] country is, as you said, too fucking immature.

Maybe we're just fucked. Maybe these problems I'm talking about...the root analogy I keep using, I'll use it again. Maybe the roots have sunk too deep. And I agree that it's a good idea to cut the stem to at least slow the damn thing down. But all the same, nobody on either side of the aisle in the gun control bitchfest tries to look at the root of the damn problem. If you put controllers and lobbyists together and started the debate not with "Are guns bad?" and instead with "What is causing people to utilize guns to commit these atrocities?" there'd be much more intelligent and productive discourse than what currently exists.

In the meantime I maintain my stance on firearm control; make it harder to obtain firearms, don't let unstable individuals purchase them, and get the ATF to do their fucking jobs in persecuting the illegal firearms trade.
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Shooting in California - by Sejanus - May 25, 2014 at 3:09 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Minimalist - May 25, 2014 at 3:48 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 25, 2014 at 4:10 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Lemonvariable72 - May 25, 2014 at 5:29 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by max-greece - May 25, 2014 at 4:21 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Napoléon - May 25, 2014 at 6:20 am
RE: Shooting in California - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 25, 2014 at 6:26 am
RE: Shooting in California - by max-greece - May 25, 2014 at 7:46 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Brakeman - May 25, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Nine - May 25, 2014 at 8:59 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Anomalocaris - May 25, 2014 at 6:25 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by sven - May 25, 2014 at 5:28 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Silver - May 25, 2014 at 9:15 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Nine - May 25, 2014 at 9:30 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 25, 2014 at 7:13 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 25, 2014 at 7:55 am
Re: RE: Shooting in California - by KUSA - May 25, 2014 at 10:14 am
RE: Shooting in California - by zebo-the-fat - May 25, 2014 at 12:49 pm
Shooting in California - by Rampant.A.I. - May 25, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Napoléon - May 25, 2014 at 2:07 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 25, 2014 at 7:25 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by sven - May 25, 2014 at 2:27 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 25, 2014 at 1:18 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Napoléon - May 25, 2014 at 1:58 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Marsellus Wallace - May 25, 2014 at 1:26 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Creed of Heresy - May 25, 2014 at 1:44 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Faith No More - May 25, 2014 at 2:37 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Autumnlicious - May 25, 2014 at 1:59 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Creed of Heresy - May 25, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Creed of Heresy - May 25, 2014 at 2:17 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Brian37 - May 25, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Faith No More - May 25, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by paulpablo - May 25, 2014 at 3:30 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Nine - May 25, 2014 at 4:04 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by FlyingNarwhal - May 25, 2014 at 4:11 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Autumnlicious - May 25, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Nine - May 25, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by FreeTony - May 25, 2014 at 4:22 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Nine - May 25, 2014 at 4:31 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Autumnlicious - May 25, 2014 at 4:35 pm
Shooting in California - by Rampant.A.I. - May 25, 2014 at 5:06 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by professor - May 25, 2014 at 5:48 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Creed of Heresy - May 26, 2014 at 6:00 am
RE: Shooting in California - by The Valkyrie - May 26, 2014 at 9:29 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Minimalist - May 25, 2014 at 6:11 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Mudhammam - May 26, 2014 at 6:19 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Creed of Heresy - May 26, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Mudhammam - May 26, 2014 at 9:52 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Creed of Heresy - May 26, 2014 at 6:20 am
RE: Shooting in California - by Chas - May 26, 2014 at 8:47 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Napoléon - May 26, 2014 at 10:08 pm
RE: Shooting in California - by Chas - May 26, 2014 at 10:12 pm

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