RE: Does it make sense to speak of "Universal Consciousness" or "Univer...
May 26, 2014 at 8:21 pm
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2014 at 8:25 pm by bennyboy.)
(May 26, 2014 at 7:21 pm)Chas Wrote: I will say for about the third time that qualia are not a property of brain but of mind/consciousness.And from what non-brain minds have you gathered evidence establishing this claim?
As for my argument not being clear:
bennyboy Wrote:GIVEN THAT the brains of others actually experience qualia, rather than just seeming to, I argue:
1) The brain has many properties.
2) Qualia supervene on some or all of these properties.
3) Some of these properties are unique to the brain, and some are universal.
4) It is not known on which of these properties qualia supervene.
5) It is therefore not known whether qualia are unique to the brain or universal.
Chas Wrote:You assume that qualia are a property of the brain. I do not.1. Since I'm a declared agnostic idealist, that seems unlikely.
2. Accepting the brain/mind/qualia connection as a given was not an assertion but a concession, i.e. an "even if." Maybe I was confused by:
Chas Wrote:I will restate that there is absolutely no evidence for anything but mind being dependent on anything but brain.
Chas Wrote:I will say for about the third time that qualia are not a property of brain but of mind/consciousness.
Chas Wrote:All of the evidence of neuroscience indicates that the mind depends on a brain.
There is no evidence that it depends only on the brains we use.
There is no reason to believe that a silicon-based 'brain' of appropriate complexity couldn't host a mind.