Common self contradiction of the religious

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Common self contradiction of the religious

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RE: Common self contradiction of the religious

June 8, 2014 at 1:26 am (This post was last modified: June 8, 2014 at 1:30 am by Freedom of thought.)

(June 7, 2014 at 11:03 pm)orangebox21 Wrote:
(June 7, 2014 at 6:28 am)Tonus Wrote: I think a more fascinating question is: how does timelessness work? What is it like to be outside of time?

Not a clue. What do you think?

(June 7, 2014 at 6:28 am)Tonus Wrote: Presumably, god exists in some form that is capable of action and thought, and therefore capable of marking time.
If God is able to transcend time, even if He is able to mark time, He wouldn't be bound by it.

(June 7, 2014 at 6:28 am)Tonus Wrote: Was god just one second old when he began to create the universe?
If God is timeless He can't be old.

What if I were to assert that the universe existed in this timeless state you're talking about? Since we can make claims without a shred of evidence like that. Then you'd be in a bit of a pickle. And isn't god omnipotent, and omniscient? Which means he has INFINITE power and INFINITE knowledge. Infinities are impossible right? Religious logic: "The universe existing without a cause is absurd, and infinities can't exist, so I'll propose a being which exists without a cause to cause the universe, since the universe can't exist without a cause, and this cause has infinite in knowledge and power, even though I claim infinities can't exist and those traits don't follow from my argument..."

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Common self contradiction of the religious - by Freedom of thought - May 30, 2014 at 12:19 pm

Common self contradiction of the religious - by Rampant.A.I. - May 30, 2014 at 12:30 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by The Grand Nudger - May 30, 2014 at 12:45 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Ryantology - June 5, 2014 at 4:01 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Cyberman - June 8, 2014 at 1:42 pm

Common self contradiction of the religious - by Rampant.A.I. - May 30, 2014 at 12:52 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by The Grand Nudger - May 30, 2014 at 12:59 pm

Common self contradiction of the religious - by Rampant.A.I. - May 30, 2014 at 1:03 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 30, 2014 at 1:53 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Faith No More - May 30, 2014 at 2:11 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by The Grand Nudger - May 30, 2014 at 4:08 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Godschild - June 5, 2014 at 12:38 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by LostLocke - June 5, 2014 at 12:45 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Chad32 - June 5, 2014 at 12:46 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Godschild - June 5, 2014 at 1:30 pm

Common self contradiction of the religious - by Rampant.A.I. - June 5, 2014 at 1:06 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Tonus - June 5, 2014 at 1:08 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by orangebox21 - June 7, 2014 at 12:32 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Tonus - June 7, 2014 at 6:28 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by orangebox21 - June 7, 2014 at 11:03 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Freedom of thought - June 8, 2014 at 1:26 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Tonus - June 8, 2014 at 7:46 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Ryantology - June 8, 2014 at 4:22 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Fidel_Castronaut - June 9, 2014 at 8:32 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Ravenshire - June 8, 2014 at 5:34 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by The Valkyrie - June 8, 2014 at 5:36 pm

Common self contradiction of the religious - by Rampant.A.I. - June 5, 2014 at 1:11 pm

Common self contradiction of the religious - by Rampant.A.I. - June 5, 2014 at 1:34 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by orangebox21 - June 5, 2014 at 1:42 pm

Common self contradiction of the religious - by Rampant.A.I. - June 5, 2014 at 2:13 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Minimalist - June 5, 2014 at 2:53 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Bad Writer - June 5, 2014 at 3:24 pm

Common self contradiction of the religious - by Rampant.A.I. - June 7, 2014 at 12:59 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by vorlon13 - June 7, 2014 at 9:04 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Ryantology - June 7, 2014 at 3:23 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by orangebox21 - June 8, 2014 at 11:33 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Tonus - June 9, 2014 at 5:41 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Ryantology - June 9, 2014 at 7:32 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Freedom of thought - June 15, 2014 at 12:02 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by MindForgedManacle - June 9, 2014 at 12:52 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Cyberman - June 9, 2014 at 1:44 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by orangebox21 - June 10, 2014 at 12:07 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Tonus - June 10, 2014 at 5:46 am

Common self contradiction of the religious - by Rampant.A.I. - June 10, 2014 at 12:13 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Minimalist - June 10, 2014 at 1:51 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 14, 2014 at 11:25 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Tonus - June 15, 2014 at 9:53 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Cyberman - June 15, 2014 at 5:07 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by archangle - June 10, 2014 at 7:48 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Cyberman - June 10, 2014 at 9:47 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Minimalist - June 15, 2014 at 12:06 pm

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by orangebox21 - June 16, 2014 at 1:11 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Freedom of thought - June 17, 2014 at 4:15 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by orangebox21 - June 19, 2014 at 2:21 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Freedom of thought - June 20, 2014 at 4:37 am

RE: Common self contradiction of the religious - by Freedom of thought - June 20, 2014 at 9:27 am

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