Truth.. and what you know

[ska88]

Hello everyone.

I’ve always liked to discuss terms and meanings..

what I want to discuss today is the difference between "The Truth" and "What you know"


The truth is always there but no one can say this is it!! If someone did .. then that means that he is in deep ignorance.

Can you count on what you know to define the truth?!


How can you be close to the truth as much as you can??

I think being truthful and trying to know the truth depends on how tolerant you are with other ideas and opinions.. how strong you are to change your mind if discovered that you are wrong .. how brave you are to say I don’t know .. and how deep you are to open your mind for others and hear their opinions with the possibility that they can be right..

So now.. what is truth? how attached are you with what you know?

and the big question is .. if you knew that the truth is with your enemy.. are you brave enough to admit?

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. Are you asking what the difference between "truth" and "knowledge" is, asking how we know if anything is true, or what?

Nothing is true... everything is permitted.

Is it true that "Nothing is true."? If so, then the statement is false. If not, then it's meaningless.

This is we shouldn't go post-modernist! xD

You can have truth, but you can only know whether your ideas are true in a given context.

In the context of eating an apple, it is true that I am enjoying it. Whether the apple and I "really" exist, or whether I'm just an illusion, or a figment of the Mind of God, or a character in the Matrix, is not knowable. That transcendent context is not accessible to us. But eating an apple will always just be eating an apple. And that's truth.

You seem to be confusing existence with a particular type of existence. After all, it was never in question that Neo existed in the Matrix, only what the nature of that existence was (virtual).

The problem comes when people have ideas that they think represent a truth of a level that is inaccessible to humans-- for example, if they claim to know why the universe exists rather than not existing. That is delusion, and possibly pride as well.

If they claim to know - especially if they claim no possibility of error - I'd agree. However, I think one can have a reasonable, defensible belief on this matter, given certain philosophical views.

what I mean is.. talk about your view on truth .. thats it

and it seems that you are doing just fine

---

I think most truth is subjective. I can know thing to be true, but every time I learn something new my perception of truth is slightly altered. Maybe it doesn't mean my original idea of truth wasn't true, but more like my new idea of truth is even more true. And maybe my idea of truth is only true for me. In any case I think education is the most important thing (not necessarily formal education), the more you learn the closer you are to truth.

Great !

you mentioned many interesting ideas.

You actually become closer to the truth as long as you grow and learn and experience new things... and the truth you knew may not change but become more true.!

There has to be a measurement for how true this or that information is, or at least thats how we see it as human beings .. cuz we love to measure things .. we love counting .. we are more comfortable with things we can touch and see ..

But what about imaginations and thoughts .. fictions.. dreams.. future tales!

Are they true? what makes fiction .. fiction! ?

I've always thought that their might be a possibility that we are living the dream and dreaming the real life! What makes dreams only happen in our minds? why are we so sure!!?

why not assuming that we are actually transferring into another parallel world? at least partially ..

Why do some people believe on souls? and others don't!

Oh my God this is driving me crazy.. and I like it.

About formal education.. I think it obstructs our minds from seeking the real truth.. since it provide information as a fact! while they should give us the possibility to find the truth some where else!

I still remember my physics teacher when I told her "what makes you so sure that atoms and electrons are real? scientists have changed their opinions many times around this matter"

she said .. Thats been proven my experiments..

and just in years ago.. some scientists discovered that everything is wave .. even what they used to call "matter, atoms, electrons"

they are still trying to find out wether this is true or not!

thanx a lot

---

Hello everyone.

I’ve always liked to discuss terms and meanings..

what I want to discuss today is the difference between "The Truth" and "What you know"


The truth is always there but no one can say this is it!! If someone did .. then that means that he is in deep ignorance.

Can you count on what you know to define the truth?!


How can you be close to the truth as much as you can??

I think being truthful and trying to know the truth depends on how tolerant you are with other ideas and opinions.. how strong you are to change your mind if discovered that you are wrong .. how brave you are to say I don’t know .. and how deep you are to open your mind for others and hear their opinions with the possibility that they can be right..

So now.. what is truth? how attached are you with what you know?

and the big question is .. if you knew that the truth is with your enemy.. are you brave enough to admit?

So the best way to determine what the "truth" is is to simply swallow this woo and throw our hands up and say "This is wordy, sounds intellectual, so Allah is the one true god"?

Now take this same argument you typed here and ask yourself if you would become a Christian or a Jew if they made this same argument to you.

Now a dose of reality for all of you.

The best way to determine the most accurate description of the nature of reality is, when you have multiple competing claims, is to take those claims into a neutral setting, put the claims under an established test with control groups, be able to test and falsify those claims, and then subject the claim to peer review to insure your starting data, methodology and formula and output data are correct. If your claim gets through all that, you are onto something. If it does not, you start over or you scrap it.

Bottom line what you typed was meaningless drivel.

Or.. that is what you think is true.

---

Did I somehow miss that this was about Allah? Damn I have to start paying more attention.

I don't know why when I write anything it directly means that I'm talking about Islam and my belief and my God!!

Why can't we just discuss things without looking at the religion?!

I replied on you guys and I didn't even look at your profiles

that's segregation don't you think?