RE: Truth.. and what you know
June 9, 2014 at 3:04 pm
(This post was last modified: June 9, 2014 at 3:21 pm by Violet.)
(June 8, 2014 at 3:15 am)ska88 Wrote: Its like you are implying for something specific.
You do what you do, and they do what they do, and if you do as they tell you not to: they will try and stop you.
But what can they do? They're dead too.
Quote:You know what.. I even can't say if someone is sane or crazy?!
Does thinking differently makes someone crazy?! And thinking like me makes someone sane .. like me?!
I can.
No. No.
Quote:Thanks for sharing your thoughts
You haven't yet heard my thoughts. You should hope that you never do.
(June 8, 2014 at 2:52 am)bennyboy Wrote: You can have truth, but you can only know whether your ideas are true in a given context.
You can have truth for everything and anything, irrespective of context. But... do you believe the truth? Can you... accept it?
Quote:In the context of eating an apple, it is true that I am enjoying it. Whether the apple and I "really" exist, or whether I'm just an illusion, or a figment of the Mind of God, or a character in the Matrix, is not knowable. That transcendent context is not accessible to us. But eating an apple will always just be eating an apple. And that's truth.
In logic... your existence is certain, as the existence of all things is certain. You exist as all things, for all things exist as you do.
Without logic, or with a different logic... you are the transient non-nothing that is something without meaning and YOU ARE *NOT*.
But don't worry... logic is right. Right?
Quote:The problem comes when people have ideas that they think represent a truth of a level that is inaccessible to humans-- for example, if they claim to know why the universe exists rather than not existing. That is delusion, and possibly pride as well.
Perhaps they do. The delusional often know many things.
(June 8, 2014 at 5:57 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote:(June 8, 2014 at 2:19 am)Alice Wrote: Nothing is true... everything is permitted.
Is it true that "Nothing is true."? If so, then the statement is false. If not, then it's meaningless.
This is we shouldn't go post-modernist! xD
Whether you attach meaning to it or not is... irrelevant. The truth is unconcerned with you, as the truth is not. Nothing is pure... everything conflicts.
I've gone postal; what age need I be... to be?
(June 8, 2014 at 6:08 pm)Losty Wrote: I think most truth is subjective. I can know thing to be true, but every time I learn something new my perception of truth is slightly altered. Maybe it doesn't mean my original idea of truth wasn't true, but more like my new idea of truth is even more true. And maybe my idea of truth is only true for me. In any case I think education is the most important thing (not necessarily formal education), the more you learn the closer you are to truth.
'The more you learn... the closer you are... to truth'?
Aha... hahahahaha XD Hahahaa... ha.. heheaha XD ^___^ XD
Woooowwww
(June 9, 2014 at 8:56 am)ThePinsir Wrote: Perhaps math is truth. Maybe the only absolute truth.
2+2 = 4.
Before the Big Bang, 2+2 = 4.
After the heat-death of the universe, 2+2 = 4.
That number-sentence is absolutely, always, and forever true.
Math is founded on logic. All the elements of mathematics must be as they are, not be as they're not, and conform to only their 'ares' or 'are nots'.
You wouldn't know what to do if you held the true.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
