RE: Before Christ & The Bible
June 12, 2014 at 12:48 pm
(This post was last modified: June 12, 2014 at 12:57 pm by Vox.)
(June 12, 2014 at 12:41 pm)dreenbmp Wrote:(June 12, 2014 at 12:24 pm)Vox Wrote: If you believe he died for the crimes of your race and is trying to save you from yourself he is. A lot of them tend to downplay the hellfire side these days, but it always gets pulled out if you express any doubt about a teaching or even the non-existence of God.
So let me get this straight....God creates a world and he is all knowing (regardless giving us freedom of choice, he still knows everything)....Programs us with a brain and "sinful" urges. then he says world isn't good enough, so he floods it. He then says the world isn't good again, and the only way to fix it is to send his own son which is actually him..but not really, to die on a cross to "save our sins."? I'm sorry..but that is just ridiculous.
It's quite a lot to take in isn't it, although that said they don't quite see it like this..Let me try to explain.
God created the world, but most Christians don't belive things like disease and sexual urges are his doing. As one passage of scripture says "the wages of sin is death" (Romans 6:23); prior to the fall of Adam these things did not exist and are the creation of human evil or Satan. When we do evil, evil is believed to materialize as either a reflection of the evil of humanity or as punishment.
If people stopped sinning, these things would vanish (that's the theory).
Now...God Sacrificing himself...This might actually be a bit interesting. I couldn't speak about protestants but most Catholics agree that God doesn't have free will. He is the source of all that is good (whatever he does is automatically good), but he's also totally lawful. Any violation of his law (sinning) deserves eternal punishment, because all sins are personal slights against the source of all good.
Because it's such a dreadful thing, and because he can't automatically forgive humans and not enact lawful retribution he sacrificed the only thing that was valuable enough in the universe/multiverse to be considered adequate compensation for a personal insult against God, himself.
It's kinda hard to condense for a small forum post. :/
