RE: Moon Landing: Fake or Real?
June 13, 2014 at 11:56 am
(This post was last modified: June 13, 2014 at 12:08 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
According to NASA, yes. 50 years of recordkeeping (this was before digital, some later during transition) and 50 years of career attrition (and plain old death) have removed the knowledge and most of the folks we might simply ask for help. Our "principles" were the bits of relevant information lost. The data from apollo and gemeni literally -was- the list of design principles for such a vehicle. Mission notes where the lists of issues we'd be facing. It would be as if we lost our notes on germ theory, and the ability to produce the equipment to replicate our discoveries..had two microscopes left on earth -but continued to claim that we were capable of producing reliant medicines....is there really a way to overstate such a fuckup?
(As a side note, the notion that a manned mars mission, or any manned mission, is held up by cost is entirely baseless. A mission was proposed waaay back in the day using -then- existing technologies at a fraction of the usual mission cost for permanent habitation of Mars. I suppose though, it's easier to talk about how expensive it would be..even if it wouldn't...then to admit to such a colossal mess. Hell, we could do it today.......if only we had some of that -then- existing technology at hand.....)
These vehicles are modern day antikythera devices. We have one, it exists, in fact we have many fragments of one. We know that people once made them, we have fragmentary ideas of how they were made, but we are at a loss to explain -in detail- how they were produced in the first place (or their exact manner of use). The analogy breaks down when we consider the simplicity of the antikythera device. We can make better instruments now (if it is what we think it is) - but with launch vehicles, we simply haven't been able to do so. Everything is held up in design phase while we tease out the info remaining on our successful programs.
(As a side note, the notion that a manned mars mission, or any manned mission, is held up by cost is entirely baseless. A mission was proposed waaay back in the day using -then- existing technologies at a fraction of the usual mission cost for permanent habitation of Mars. I suppose though, it's easier to talk about how expensive it would be..even if it wouldn't...then to admit to such a colossal mess. Hell, we could do it today.......if only we had some of that -then- existing technology at hand.....)
These vehicles are modern day antikythera devices. We have one, it exists, in fact we have many fragments of one. We know that people once made them, we have fragmentary ideas of how they were made, but we are at a loss to explain -in detail- how they were produced in the first place (or their exact manner of use). The analogy breaks down when we consider the simplicity of the antikythera device. We can make better instruments now (if it is what we think it is) - but with launch vehicles, we simply haven't been able to do so. Everything is held up in design phase while we tease out the info remaining on our successful programs.
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