(June 13, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Vox Wrote: 1. Charity
Atheists break fundraising record for Doctors Without Borders
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(June 13, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Vox Wrote: 2. Crime prevention22 Ways religion promotes Crimes
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(June 13, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Vox Wrote: 3. EthicsTo achieve the highest levels of moral development aka moral judgments this must be justified by rational moral reasons rather than appeal to the order of nature or of religious authority or revelation.
Lawrence Kohlberg
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If all religious doctrines promote ethics then why the
Dalai Lama says we need a 'global system of secular ethics'
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(June 13, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Vox Wrote: 4. Common cause:Seriously those are your examples?….. I'm gonna quote Ghandi here.
The Crusades, The Islamic conquests, the Reconquista and the Third Reich are all examples of where faith (or a cult of personality) have gathered people of various types together to accomplish a goal that would have otherwise been impossible.
Quote:Nehru: Bapuji, the whole country is moving.List of secularist organizations
Mahatma Gandhi : Yes. but in what direction?
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Did the man got to the moon ain't an example of common cause? And what about the end of world wars one and two?
And all those events of common cause sponsored by religion that you mentioned tell me how did they ended? And let's not forget that the Reconquista more that a religious sponsored cause it was mostly supported by the revenge toward the Islamic conquests.
Charity, Crime prevention, ethics and common cause? Are those your examples of why religion should not vanish? Allow me to reply that with a quote:
"Name one moral action performed by a believer that could not have been done by a nonbeliever."
Christopher Hitchens
Napoleon, Alexander, Attila, Julius Caesar and Genghis kan they changed and forged our world. So please tell me were they manipulated by religion? or did they were the ones who manipulated religion?