(June 17, 2014 at 3:40 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote:(June 17, 2014 at 3:30 pm)alpha male Wrote: I'm saying that, from an atheist POV, If religion is evil, and religion was invented by men, then men are evil.
Ignoring, of course, that "Good or Evil" is a false dichotomy and gross oversimplification of why dogmatic belief and support of Bronze Age values in a modern society is morally harmful, and the fact that Christians do not "surrender their morality to God," as plenty of Christians can distinguish parts of biblical morality that are not moral; had they surrendered their morality to God they would not be able to do that.
Come on.
Well obviously I'm not talking about Christianity as whole, since there are...like a jillion different sects, but there are large numbers of people that do claim that the Bible/God is the source of morality, period. You see it when people hem and haw and try to re-characterize slavery in the bible as simply indentured servitude or somesuch, instead of being able to say that idea is morally wrong, regardless of being in the bible.
And sure there are Christians who disagree with plenty of stuff in the bible, and in my opinion those people are more moral than the God they profess. But even on smaller issues than slavery (like contraception or gay sex), people can hold moral beleifs that have no grounding in reality simply based on the fact that their church has decreed it as immoral.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
- Thomas Jefferson