RE: There is no God.
June 19, 2014 at 10:20 am
(This post was last modified: June 19, 2014 at 10:22 am by fr0d0.)
(June 19, 2014 at 10:03 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote:(June 19, 2014 at 9:56 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Atheists say that they won't believe in God unless he proves himself to them. They won't take the money without proof that it's there first.
What a delightful equivocation fallacy.
The example of the money around the corner is something than can be proved with evidence, such as taking a look around the corner.
Belief in God is something that cannot be proved with evidence, as by definition God (allegedly) exists outside our realm of measurement and understanding.
Additionally, obtaining a million dollars in and of itself is something I would call and unmitigated positive result, whereas the proposition of God isn't.
A more apt analogy woud be: Around the corner there is a million dollars. You can't look around the corner, and you can't use any instruments to measure anything about the million dollars. In order to accept the million dollars, you must follow these certain rules for the rest of your life. If you don't accept that the million dollars exist, you get tortured forever.
Your analogy is sloppy.
You couldn't look around the corner first. You just had to believe it was there and take it. You assumed in your favour. Your analogy of torture is very wrong too. The torture is what you get without the million dollars: you're without the million dollars. If you want to complicate things further... you can keep the million dollars when you die.
Still, it's refreshing to see another atheist who understands that proof is impossible.
(June 19, 2014 at 10:08 am)pocaracas Wrote:(June 19, 2014 at 9:36 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I think I'll make him an hororary Christian
I'm already an honorary christian.... my parents made sure to have a priest drop some water on my head, when I was less than 6 months old.
Ah yeah that makes you a better person than me then. I'm sorry your holiness.