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Sacrificing our Moral Compasses
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RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses
(June 19, 2014 at 3:02 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: If I had no doubt that it was God, I would know that it wasn't God.

There always has to be doubt. Perhaps that's a safety valve. There's also the admonition to test instructions for validity with the bible. At least two references I've heard say. I'd also check with someone in a position of authority verified with other respected leaders. Given these checks passed, and the whole of my community were in agreement... no I still wouldn't do it. I'm an independent thinker who does what's on his own mind rather than what other people think.

Wow. Are you Neo? Because you're fantastic at dodging quesitons. I'm not asking about your community or or family or your coutnry or your government. I'm asking that if your God spoke to you, and asked you to kill your son, would you do it.

Unless of course you don't think God speaks to people.

(June 19, 2014 at 3:01 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I would say, as a spectator...that this is defintely unlevel territory for the faithful. Most of us would both agree that we wouldn;t kill our sons...and if an atheist says "yeah..maybe if i was from some shitty infanticidal tribe i might" it's pretty much a wash. Course, infanticidal tribes don;t always produce infanticidle members. People break the rules, morals change (else how would we get so many different groups of them?).

But for the faithful, it's a rock and a hardplace. You either lack faith (wouldn't kill jr no matter what), or become a douche the moment ghosts are invoked (well..I suppose if god said so.....).

Could skip the foreplay and get into the bit about -why- following a gods command or disobeying one might be more moral according to "both" of your moral compasses.

(but if you think that Frods is gonna lick that plate.......lol)

That is the point my OP (tried to) made. If someone can disagree with God based on his or her own moral ideas, then why view that God as anything like infallible?
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by FatAndFaithless - June 17, 2014 at 3:01 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by John V - June 17, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by John V - June 17, 2014 at 3:30 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by John V - June 17, 2014 at 6:32 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by Jenny A - June 17, 2014 at 7:43 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by John V - June 19, 2014 at 10:22 am
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by Bibliofagus - June 19, 2014 at 10:57 am
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by Crossless1 - June 17, 2014 at 5:50 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by downbeatplumb - June 20, 2014 at 12:29 pm
Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by Rampant.A.I. - June 17, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by ShaMan - June 17, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by laikashuman - June 17, 2014 at 5:32 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by ThePinsir - June 17, 2014 at 5:39 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by laikashuman - June 17, 2014 at 5:42 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by laikashuman - June 17, 2014 at 6:01 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by laikashuman - June 17, 2014 at 8:22 pm
Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by Rampant.A.I. - June 19, 2014 at 10:57 am
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 19, 2014 at 11:14 am
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by Thumpalumpacus - June 19, 2014 at 11:21 am
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by John V - June 19, 2014 at 12:12 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 11:32 am
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by FatAndFaithless - June 19, 2014 at 11:34 am
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 11:43 am
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by FatAndFaithless - June 19, 2014 at 11:44 am
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 11:48 am
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by FatAndFaithless - June 19, 2014 at 11:50 am
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 2:22 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by Bad Wolf - June 19, 2014 at 12:11 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 2:36 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 2:42 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 2:48 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 2:55 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by John V - June 19, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 3:02 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by FatAndFaithless - June 19, 2014 at 3:03 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 3:07 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 3:18 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 3:24 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 3:28 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 3:34 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 3:31 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 3:54 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 19, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 20, 2014 at 6:07 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by MJ the Skeptical - June 20, 2014 at 11:02 pm
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 21, 2014 at 3:11 am
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by fr0d0 - June 21, 2014 at 3:46 am
RE: Sacrificing our Moral Compasses - by Thumpalumpacus - June 21, 2014 at 8:19 am

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