Are there people you CANNOT discuss religion with?
June 21, 2014 at 1:14 pm
(This post was last modified: June 21, 2014 at 1:27 pm by Mudhammam.)
Over the years, my brother and I have discussed different topics of philosophy and religion many times, some of these have been interesting and constructive...but the last dozen or more times have devolved into nothing but stupid non- sequiturs, straw-men, ad hoc, misinformed accusations, etc. I pretty much learned NOT to discuss religion with him, because I find his ideas unintelligible and he finds mine "implausible."
Yesterday, we hung out, got to talking (by his initiative) about some different topics...talked for a few hours, all good. That's when I should have ended it. Somehow he kept bringing up theistic buzz words like "soul" "determinism," "globs of matter," no moral responsibility," "no free will," and I don't want to bore you with the details, but basically kept throwing the same nonsense at me that I see refuted here everyday, but he does so with an arrogance that is cringe-worthy. I'm ashamed to say, it turned into another big waste of time involving a lot of silly name-calling (although I don't feel bad for calling his views "bulllshit" or "unintelligent") and I asked myself again, "WHY even TRY talking with people like that about religion?" And he's my brother, so it kinda sucks that this always happens and I have to feel that way towards him.
But his ideas, which he thinks are absolutely brilliant, ARE SO FUCKING DUMB! And anyone who researches these things objectively (that is, doubting your science, thinking it could ALL be wrong, and doubting your religion, thinking that could ALL be wrong...heh, good luck with that) SHOULD see that. That's how I think, ya know?
Ok, I got that out, so: are there friends or relatives that you will NOT discuss religion with because it always leads to nowhere good?
Yesterday, we hung out, got to talking (by his initiative) about some different topics...talked for a few hours, all good. That's when I should have ended it. Somehow he kept bringing up theistic buzz words like "soul" "determinism," "globs of matter," no moral responsibility," "no free will," and I don't want to bore you with the details, but basically kept throwing the same nonsense at me that I see refuted here everyday, but he does so with an arrogance that is cringe-worthy. I'm ashamed to say, it turned into another big waste of time involving a lot of silly name-calling (although I don't feel bad for calling his views "bulllshit" or "unintelligent") and I asked myself again, "WHY even TRY talking with people like that about religion?" And he's my brother, so it kinda sucks that this always happens and I have to feel that way towards him.
But his ideas, which he thinks are absolutely brilliant, ARE SO FUCKING DUMB! And anyone who researches these things objectively (that is, doubting your science, thinking it could ALL be wrong, and doubting your religion, thinking that could ALL be wrong...heh, good luck with that) SHOULD see that. That's how I think, ya know?
Ok, I got that out, so: are there friends or relatives that you will NOT discuss religion with because it always leads to nowhere good?
