RE: 3 Questions For Believers (A work in progress.)
June 29, 2014 at 12:15 am
(This post was last modified: June 29, 2014 at 12:18 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 28, 2014 at 6:40 pm)Lek Wrote: Once I believed, then I recognized the experiences as being influenced by God. Now that I know him I've opened my eyes to his work. Jesus referred to some of the pharisees as "having eyes, but not seeing". I think we all experience the divine at times, but don't recognize what we see for what it is.Right, I get that, but again, -before you believed- would any of this have been sufficient evidence to you? Does it meet the standard of evidence you have applied to all other claims, the standard that you use everyday. The standard of evidence that you ostensibly possessed, before....you believed?
Right now, you are essentially stating the definition of special concessions, special pleading. I doubt that your beliefs are founded upon special pleading (even if the only claims you feel comfortable with are)...and I know that what you're expressing to me here is textbook theology....so it occurs to me that while you may be reciting the theology (as you feel compelled to do - by belief-) there is likely to be a more elaborate and well constructed base upon which all of this is standing. It's speculation, but very favorable speculation of an ordinary sort - I hope you don't mind.
(course, I can't be too gentle can I. Doesn't "I believe that these things are from god because I believe in god, and I believe in god because I believe these things are from god" sound a tad bit too circular to you?)
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