Faith is a measure of irrationality

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That is not a bloody miracle! See the way things work usually with people who believe in miracles is that when an event can't be explained they then call it a miracle. Its a logical fallacy but they still do it. But you, you've taken it to the next level. You are actually ignoring any other possible explanations and jumping straight to miracle. Someone just put the machine in your mothers room! That was it, whether by accident or on purpose, is irrelevant. And it wasn't recorded in the inventory log because the receptionist 'Dave' was too distracted that day to notice it arrival because his golden retriever 'Lucky' had been exhibiting strange behaviours over the past few days and Dave was worried about his health.
See, even that is a better explanation than divine intervention.

See... there is no point in telling you anything. You have your mind made up before I say a word.

The problem is, I see both sides of the argument. You don't.

I made your case for you just to show you that I'm not the zombie you think I am! I'm well aware of "all" the possibilities, w/o need to ridicule you or your family, or "your experiences".

The example I gave you is one (the most important one to me) of many, many. Probably, every one of them could be explained by you. But, when they happened over and over again.... "I" started to wonder. Am I, and my ilk, just lucky... all the time? And, anit it odd that when we pray for people things seem to work out! All the time?!! Very strange indeed!

I'm pretty much in the same boat about not giving 2 shits about you either. But, you'll never see me use one of your innocent family members as fodder for sarcasm. It's just inhuman. Whether you use them to make a point, or otherwise... it's a universal line that shouldn't be crossed.

All that said. When someone experiences something you are not familiar with... How do you make an argument. When YOU weren't there...ever?

Does God need to materialize from a cloud of smoke for you to believe in a miracle.... Or could He just "use" every unique opportunity available in a given situation to save a loved one? I'll take the latter every time!

You are basing your answers on my life experiences with lack of evidence, on your part. That is called "ignorance". I have all the evidence I need: we pray; miracles happen! Spin it up any way you'd like. But, you haven't seen anything. And ironically, you never will. At least not in this life.