Faith is a measure of irrationality

[Bad Wolf]

See... there is no point in telling you anything. You have your mind made up before I say a word.

Incorrect, I made up my mind after you said many many words.

The problem is, I see both sides of the argument. You don't.

I highly doubt that. Please explain 'my side' to demonstrate that you do indeed see both arguments.

I made your case for you just to show you that I'm not the zombie you think I am! I'm well aware of "all" the possibilities, w/o need to ridicule you or your family, or "your experiences".

I never accused you of being a zombie. I implied that you were gullible and unreasonable. And if you are well aware of all the possiblities, why don't you explain all of them? Again, just to demonstrate that you know them.

The example I gave you is one (the most important one to me) of many, many. Probably, every one of them could be explained by you. But, when they happened over and over again.... "I" started to wonder. Am I, and my ilk, just lucky... all the time? And, anit it odd that when we pray for people things seem to work out! All the time?!! Very strange indeed!

I'm going to let you in a not so very secret secret: Shit happens.

I'm pretty much in the same boat about not giving 2 shits about you either. But, you'll never see me use one of your innocent family members as fodder for sarcasm. It's just inhuman.

I disagree, it's very human

Whether you use them to make a point, or otherwise... it's a universal line that shouldn't be crossed.

Really? And who decided on this universal line?

All that said. When someone experiences something you are not familiar with... How do you make an argument. When YOU weren't there...ever?

From your description of the events at the hospital, it is unnecessary for me to be there to understand and assess the event. The explanation is simple, it is entirely unnecessary to envoke any kind of miracle.

Does God need to materialize from a cloud of smoke for you to believe in a miracle.... Or could He just "use" every unique opportunity available in a given situation to save a loved one?

Have you ever considered that 'every unique opportunity' is just that.

You are basing your answers on my life experiences with lack of evidence,

You are claiming things with lack of evdience.

on your part. That is called "ignorance". I have all the evidence I need: we pray; miracles happen!

I farted twice and the Netherlands scored two goals, my farts must cause Netherlands to score goals.

You think i'm taking the piss here but i'm really not. I'm simply applying your way of thinking.

Spin it up any way you'd like. But, you haven't seen anything.

And neither have you.

And ironically, you never will. At least not in this life.

That isn't what irony is. Oh and how typical, a threat or as you might like to phrase it: an ominous warning.