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Does the universe care?
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RE: Does the universe care?
(June 29, 2014 at 7:05 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Yes, we are made of atoms, like the universe, and yes we can think.
Don't read anymore into it.
There is no universal master plan.
We only exist because of the random combination of atoms scattered which become our planet.

That's how it starts, we start to explain the universe around us, and before you know it, you're a deluded "christian".
Hehe

I am not trying to think of any master plan, nor am I attempting to insert one. I see no intrinsic purpose or intrinsic value as far as that is concerned. I would agree with you that we exist because our existence is possible. However, it no less changes that I'm part of the universe and I am conscious. So this tiny sliver of the universe is a conscious part of the universe capable of answering or asking the question Wink

(June 29, 2014 at 7:05 pm)Cato Wrote:
(June 29, 2014 at 6:43 pm)Logisch Wrote: Please elaborate, the reason I posted this is to sort of ponder on the thought and get some other opinions and ideas and open a line of discussion. Thank you for the response.

The fallacy of composition is when someone infers something of the whole when it is only true of some part. In this case you are trying to imbue the entire universe with a consciousness and ability to care because a part of the universe possesses consciousness. There is absolutely no reason to accept the proposition 'the universe is conscious'.

My point was not to call the entire universe conscious, but that we are and we are a part of the universe.

Q: Is the universe conscious?
A: We're part of the universe, so by technically, sure, but only the part that we're aware of, which is us.

Q: Does the universe care?
A: We're part of the universe, and this part of the universe cares about itself and others, so technically yes.

If that clarifies by simplicity.

(edit) - Thanks for clarifying on the fallacy of composition. That's a new point of discussion for me and I appreciate you pointing it out. That gives me something to think about.
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Messages In This Thread
Does the universe care? - by Logisch - June 29, 2014 at 6:39 pm
RE: Does the universe care? - by Cato - June 29, 2014 at 6:41 pm
RE: Does the universe care? - by Logisch - June 29, 2014 at 6:43 pm
RE: Does the universe care? - by Cato - June 29, 2014 at 7:05 pm
RE: Does the universe care? - by Anomalocaris - July 2, 2014 at 10:29 am
RE: Does the universe care? - by Cato - July 2, 2014 at 1:28 pm
RE: Does the universe care? - by Ben Davis - June 29, 2014 at 6:43 pm
RE: Does the universe care? - by Logisch - June 29, 2014 at 6:45 pm
RE: Does the universe care? - by Cyberman - June 29, 2014 at 6:47 pm
RE: Does the universe care? - by Logisch - June 29, 2014 at 6:49 pm
RE: Does the universe care? - by ShaMan - June 29, 2014 at 6:50 pm
RE: Does the universe care? - by Logisch - June 29, 2014 at 7:00 pm
RE: Does the universe care? - by ignoramus - June 29, 2014 at 7:05 pm
RE: Does the universe care? - by Logisch - June 29, 2014 at 7:09 pm
RE: Does the universe care? - by Magilla - June 29, 2014 at 10:10 pm
RE: Does the universe care? - by Logisch - June 29, 2014 at 10:22 pm
RE: Does the universe care? - by bennyboy - June 30, 2014 at 4:27 am
RE: Does the universe care? - by Ravenshire - June 29, 2014 at 7:29 pm
RE: Does the universe care? - by Angrboda - June 29, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Does the universe care? - by Jenny A - June 29, 2014 at 11:43 pm
RE: Does the universe care? - by Logisch - June 30, 2014 at 12:34 am
RE: Does the universe care? - by The Grand Nudger - June 30, 2014 at 1:56 am
RE: Does the universe care? - by The Grand Nudger - June 30, 2014 at 4:30 am
RE: Does the universe care? - by Mudhammam - July 2, 2014 at 10:12 am
RE: Does the universe care? - by Mudhammam - July 2, 2014 at 1:56 pm

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