(June 29, 2014 at 8:47 pm)Logisch Wrote:(June 29, 2014 at 8:28 pm)blackout94 Wrote: Exactly, and this deists are not people that bother me and as a matter of fact I respect their view, even though there is no evidence it still is more plausible than the theistic religious view. I too have a problem with people that are like 'Oh my god you don't believe in god? This isn't possible how do you not believe if I know he exists?' - This is super annoying
Indeed it is interesting how some of those people can take an approach that they "know" (gnostic) and then fall back on "gotta have faith" or "cause bible" which is far from a point of speaking in terms of knowing since that doesn't give a good enough reason to consider oneself "gnostic." I'm not a big fan of the gnostic position.
Yes I feel your pain, I too I'm not a fan of Gnosticism (even though I consider a Gnostic atheist more legitimate than a Gnostic theist), I think agnosticism gives you some humility because after all you cannot possibly know all the knowledge that exists and it is impossible to make a 100% claim that there is or there isn't a god, but I still consider the god non existing hypothesis more likely. Agnostics don't really bother me, it doesn't matter if they are atheists, theists or deists, at least agnosticism leaves room to some discussion. Today I went to a family religious ceremony and I found hilarious when the priest said 'All we need in this life is faith and belief, nothing more' - I'd like to see if he crosses the road without looking at both sides
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