(June 30, 2014 at 2:34 pm)blackout94 Wrote:(June 30, 2014 at 12:28 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: The only argument for "god," though I'm happier with the term "intelligent force," that I find mildly interesting is the argument from design; the existence of a Universe finely-tuned for organisms such as us. Even still this argument is little more than wishful speculation.
Well that is more or less the cosmological argument/intelligent design, but then again it is merely speculation. Just because we don't know the cause of something, it doesn't mean it's god, if I'm not mistaken it's called the Post Hoc fallacy.
Actually I believe the argument from design is the teleological argument, aka the watchmaker argument. The biggest problem with that argument is that in order to determine design, we not only look at evidence of the designed object, but also compare it to objects we know are not designed, which makes it very easy to tell that a watch, for example, is designed when compared to something like a rock or a tree. However with 'the universe' as being designed, we have absolutely nothing to which to compare it, so we have no basis to go off of.
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