(June 30, 2014 at 2:32 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:(June 30, 2014 at 2:10 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Christ is not a figurative position. You can't "figuratively" believe that jesus was christ. It's pretty much an all-in man. You can certainly believe that christ is a metaphor...but you no longer believe in -christ- at that point... you're just expressing a belief in metaphors.
What if you believe Jesus was just a strong-willed, thoughtful, loving, dumb zealot whose good teachings can be extracted from the large pile of crap his later disciples compiled as "biographies"?
I read a book that mixed fiction and novel with historical studies and the conclusion of the author was that Jesus was merely a Jew (not a Christian) that preached about judgement day all the time (the revelation was judgement day according to Judaism, an event that supposedly was about to happen), just read the scriptures thoroughly and you'll see Jesus refers constantly to judgement day or the day of judgement. Secondly, Jesus wasn't born from a virgin, he was born from sexual intercourse just like anyone else, the author also concluded Jesus probably had 2 siblings and married with Maria Magdalena, both had 1 kid. Thirdly, a lot of episodes in the bible are made up and this is identifiable by the date of the evidence and literary style used by authors, such as the adulterous woman episode, this one is clearly made up to support the Christian view of things.
Pretty much, Jesus was a Jew, ultra conservative, and a son of reasonably wealthy people (this is easy to conclude since he could read and write, few people could) that never intended to create Christianity, therefore Christianity is based on lies since it's foundation.
I think there is a book called 'The Historical Jesus' that speaks about this idea. The book I read has no translation to english I think so it's not worthy to say the title.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you