(June 30, 2014 at 2:51 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:(June 30, 2014 at 2:38 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Actually I believe the argument from design is the teleological argument, aka the watchmaker argument. The biggest problem with that argument is that in order to determine design, we not only look at evidence of the designed object, but also compare it to objects we know are not designed, which makes it very easy to tell that a watch, for example, is designed when compared to something like a rock or a tree. However with 'the universe' as being designed, we have absolutely nothing to which to compare it, so we have no basis to go off of.
It essentially boils down to whether the Universe is more analogous to a vegetable or a machine. I say vegetable.
*shakes Bible at you* But vegetables were designed! Ah-ha! You admit God designed the universe!
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