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Faith is a measure of irrationality
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality
(June 30, 2014 at 2:45 am)BlackMason Wrote:
(June 26, 2014 at 4:29 pm)ronedee Wrote: But, if Jesus' words are correct, "the Kingdom is found within"..... what is needed to find it? FAITH. And "IF" indeed it does work for those who have it....

Well when will you know that you've found it? I think your whole position is unfalsifiable and therefore you resort to faith. When does faith cross the rubicon and become reason. In other words when will you have the evidence that you have found the kingdom of god? Also you need to have an idea of what kind of evidence you are looking for. Otherwise you may prematurely conclude you have found said kingdom.

Also what I would like to know is those who claim faith works for them, how do they know it is the faith and not something else?

I don't care what anyone THINKS! I'm not looking for a slap on the back, or to make you guys believe anything! I'm stating my gathered statistics.

I'll try to appeal to your logic here!

When things happen outside the realm of the ordinary, how do you respond? And, when said events happen repeatedly?

As a logical person, you want to: figure it out, you want to name it, you want to find its source; You want to defeat the possiblity of chance. You want to [rule out] anything you can't explain.

Correct?

When you [can't] explain it, what then? What do YOU do with it?

Hypothetical here: If you went a certain way to work every morning and and one day went a different route..... and didn't get one red traffic light....would you drive that way again? Or would you just say it was chance and continue on your old route?

I'll answer for you... that you would indeed do it again! The next time you got all green lights again! And most EVERYTIME you went that way you got "mostly" green lights!

1. Would you go back to your old route?
2. Would you sit down and analyze the "real" reasons why?
3. Would you keep going that way?

You see, I've found that route w/ all green lights. And whether or not you call it funky law of averages, or some straining logical reasoning about how I leave the exact time for work everyday...... I keep getting the green lights!

And I just happen to be a Christian! So, as you and the others pointed out.... its very convenient! I don't need to analze squat!

The "old route" is done for me! You can wait at the red lights.
Quis ut Deus?
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Faith is a measure of irrationality - by BlackMason - June 24, 2014 at 2:10 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 8:48 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by BlackMason - June 24, 2014 at 4:03 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by FreeTony - June 24, 2014 at 4:21 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ignoramus - June 24, 2014 at 4:33 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by fr0d0 - June 24, 2014 at 7:51 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Strongbad - June 26, 2014 at 8:50 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by fr0d0 - June 26, 2014 at 9:07 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Strongbad - June 27, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Mr Greene - June 24, 2014 at 7:57 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by RobbyPants - June 24, 2014 at 8:21 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Bad Wolf - June 24, 2014 at 9:49 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by JesusHChrist - June 24, 2014 at 10:41 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by KUSA - June 24, 2014 at 10:57 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by fr0d0 - June 24, 2014 at 12:29 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Anomalocaris - June 24, 2014 at 12:47 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by BlackMason - June 26, 2014 at 1:35 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Tonus - June 26, 2014 at 5:41 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by BlackMason - June 26, 2014 at 5:52 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Tonus - June 24, 2014 at 12:58 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ThomM - June 25, 2014 at 9:04 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Foxaèr - June 26, 2014 at 2:43 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by vodkafan - June 26, 2014 at 5:47 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Tonus - June 26, 2014 at 5:59 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Tonus - June 26, 2014 at 9:01 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 26, 2014 at 4:29 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Mr Greene - June 26, 2014 at 7:24 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 28, 2014 at 6:15 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Bad Wolf - June 28, 2014 at 6:39 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 28, 2014 at 7:18 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Confused Ape - June 29, 2014 at 10:22 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Bad Wolf - June 28, 2014 at 11:16 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 29, 2014 at 1:19 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Bad Wolf - June 29, 2014 at 6:46 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 29, 2014 at 5:30 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Bad Wolf - June 29, 2014 at 6:38 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 29, 2014 at 9:03 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Bad Wolf - June 29, 2014 at 10:42 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Grandizer - June 29, 2014 at 1:27 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 29, 2014 at 1:30 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Tonus - June 29, 2014 at 8:35 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by BlackMason - June 30, 2014 at 3:12 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Simon Moon - June 26, 2014 at 7:52 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Tonus - June 26, 2014 at 8:08 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Ravenshire - June 26, 2014 at 11:00 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by BlackMason - June 30, 2014 at 2:45 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 30, 2014 at 5:40 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Esquilax - June 30, 2014 at 5:53 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Tonus - July 1, 2014 at 5:33 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Bad Wolf - June 26, 2014 at 4:54 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ManMachine - June 26, 2014 at 7:39 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by BlackMason - June 28, 2014 at 5:25 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ManMachine - June 28, 2014 at 8:03 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by BlackMason - June 30, 2014 at 3:52 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Jenny A - June 26, 2014 at 8:04 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 2:39 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Jenny A - June 27, 2014 at 9:58 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by fr0d0 - June 27, 2014 at 6:03 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Mudhammam - June 27, 2014 at 6:07 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Jenny A - June 27, 2014 at 6:34 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by BlackMason - June 28, 2014 at 9:17 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ignoramus - June 27, 2014 at 2:51 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ManMachine - June 27, 2014 at 7:40 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Mudhammam - June 27, 2014 at 3:52 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Mudhammam - June 27, 2014 at 6:01 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Little lunch - June 27, 2014 at 10:29 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 28, 2014 at 12:38 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Dystopia - June 27, 2014 at 11:20 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Cato - June 28, 2014 at 9:37 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by fr0d0 - June 28, 2014 at 5:46 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 28, 2014 at 7:58 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 28, 2014 at 8:06 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Grandizer - June 29, 2014 at 1:36 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 28, 2014 at 8:18 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 29, 2014 at 1:40 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 29, 2014 at 1:53 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 29, 2014 at 2:03 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Mudhammam - June 29, 2014 at 2:03 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Mudhammam - June 29, 2014 at 2:07 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 29, 2014 at 9:15 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Mudhammam - June 29, 2014 at 9:09 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 29, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Mudhammam - June 29, 2014 at 9:50 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ThomM - June 29, 2014 at 10:09 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 30, 2014 at 1:41 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Tonus - June 30, 2014 at 5:47 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 30, 2014 at 5:09 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by BlackMason - June 30, 2014 at 3:21 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ignoramus - June 30, 2014 at 3:24 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Mudhammam - June 30, 2014 at 7:27 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ignoramus - June 30, 2014 at 7:41 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Mudhammam - June 30, 2014 at 5:11 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ignoramus - June 30, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 30, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Esquilax - June 30, 2014 at 7:13 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Brian37 - June 30, 2014 at 7:28 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 30, 2014 at 8:28 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Foxaèr - June 30, 2014 at 8:38 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 30, 2014 at 8:45 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Esquilax - June 30, 2014 at 9:09 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Esquilax - July 1, 2014 at 2:36 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Grandizer - July 1, 2014 at 5:39 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - June 30, 2014 at 6:04 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ThomM - June 30, 2014 at 9:11 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Grandizer - June 30, 2014 at 10:38 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - July 1, 2014 at 9:30 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Tonus - July 1, 2014 at 9:37 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Grandizer - July 1, 2014 at 9:38 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Jenny A - July 1, 2014 at 10:12 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ignoramus - June 30, 2014 at 6:02 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Brian37 - June 30, 2014 at 6:54 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ignoramus - June 30, 2014 at 8:49 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Mudhammam - July 1, 2014 at 9:44 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Strongbad - July 1, 2014 at 2:38 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Grandizer - July 1, 2014 at 9:48 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - July 1, 2014 at 12:05 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Bad Wolf - July 1, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - July 1, 2014 at 1:43 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Tonus - July 1, 2014 at 1:54 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Bad Wolf - July 2, 2014 at 7:37 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - July 2, 2014 at 11:28 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Jenny A - July 2, 2014 at 12:56 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Mudhammam - July 2, 2014 at 1:03 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Cato - July 2, 2014 at 2:11 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Jenny A - July 1, 2014 at 12:37 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Grandizer - July 1, 2014 at 12:45 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Undeceived - July 1, 2014 at 12:29 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Grandizer - July 1, 2014 at 1:59 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - July 1, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Tonus - July 1, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Mudhammam - July 1, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Strongbad - July 1, 2014 at 5:35 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Esquilax - July 2, 2014 at 8:41 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ignoramus - July 1, 2014 at 9:42 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ignoramus - July 2, 2014 at 12:13 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ignoramus - July 2, 2014 at 1:09 am
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by ronedee - July 2, 2014 at 2:10 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Jenny A - July 2, 2014 at 2:25 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Bad Wolf - July 2, 2014 at 2:32 pm
RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality - by Mudhammam - July 2, 2014 at 2:34 pm

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