RE: Faith is a measure of irrationality
July 1, 2014 at 12:37 pm
(This post was last modified: July 1, 2014 at 12:39 pm by Jenny A.)
(July 1, 2014 at 12:05 pm)ronedee Wrote: The great equalizer is death. No one escapes it. Does it really matter when, where or how or who?Yes it matters. It matters very much. We should try to see that as many people as possible have the opportunity to live long happy lives. And if belief in god causes you to think otherwise, then your belief has some very ugly consequences.
Quote:So your death can be a doorway, or a hole in the ground. Jesus showed us the way out of our misery, and demise. But we get too caught up in our selfishness and anger.Unfortunately not. Death is the end. There is no god or Jesus or Flying Spagetti Monster waiting in the wings. When we die we die. -
Jesus of the Bible promises that if you do certain things (including belief in god) that you well go to heaven and not die. But there is nothing to show that he's right anymore than the Egyptions who followed The Book of the Dead and embalmed their bodies to escape death.
Quote:He owes us NOTHING! Get that through your thick heads. NOTHING!Again there is no god.
We owe Him our lives. And one day we will have to account for that gift! I want others to account for the gift of life I received. Beacuse it isn't about ME! Its about US!
But just supposing that there were and that it is the god you are supposing. What you are saying is:
1) God created your life and gave that life the inevitability of death.
2) Because he created you, you owe god everything.
3) If you worship god, he'll cure you of death.
4) Although god requires your worship he will not provide proof of his own existence.
3) Nevertheless, if you don't believe in him he'll send you to hell.
What kind of god would behave in such a childish way?
Quote:You want to ask Him why babies die? He will tell you He put YOU here to help them! That you watched and didn't lift a finger! And that all you did was complained rather than do something... anything to help them! But ultimately they are safe with Him now... or will be.
We have it in our collective world power to wipe out hunger, disease and sorrow in this world. But we as a human race would rather: fight, accumulate wealth, and blame others and God for our own ignorance!
Whether we can solve poverty and disease is beside the point. Children were dieing of poverty and disease long before humans had the ability to do much of anything about it. The question is, if as you say, god answers prayers, why is he so deaf to the prayers of people starving in third world countries?
I think the answer is really very simple. He doesn't answer prayers because he does not exist.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.