Faith is a measure of irrationality

[Jenny A]

I already told you & smoothe over and over again: "I don't know?" And, I said that we are here to help "babies" for the man-made reasons that they need help!

But while some of the reasons the "babies" are in trouble are man made, many of them aren't: climate, natural disaster, disease, etc. And it would be good if people helped. But people weren't made to help other people. The point is that prayer won't do them any good. Prayer seems to work remarkably better in first world countries where humans do more of the work for god.

Your god plan leads to some strange statements about aide to our fellow man. You said just a couple pages back that it didn't matter when or how the babies died.

The great equalizer is death. No one escapes it. Does it really matter when, where or how or who? No. what matters is that "it will" happen.

And I repeat that where, when, and how we die matters very much.

But you have selective hearing/seeing. My answers make too much sense... and none of you pinheads have one lick of common sense.

I'm not God. He gets to make the rules. You get to do whatever you want... aint that great? WTF are you complaining about?

God doesn't cramp your move at all! Ever!

What doesn't make sense about your answers is that you presuppose both god and that you know what his rules are.

AGAIN....The debate here was about Faith being irrational.

I made the point over and over again that IF indeed Faith works (for me)... whats irrational about it?

Would I believe in purple flying monkeys works for me be a rational statement? Your faith is irrational because you do not have evidence for your beliefs. None of the ways in which you say faith works for you appear to be anything more than false positives. You chalk all the good things in life to god, and the bad ones to man. That's irrational.

What "is" irrational is all of you guys discreditting my experiences w/ rethoric! I have no agenda here but to support my fellow Christians, and defend our God.

Once again, you are on an atheist forum. What exactly did you expect to happen. That you'd say, but I feel god in my heart and then everyone would say ahh, you've got to honor her feelings?

The point is not that you don't have those feelings. I'm very sure you do. It's just that I see no reason to accept that they come from god. And presuming that they do is an act of faith. It's also irrational given what we know about people's power to delude themselves.

You've (ALL) tried every which way to change the subject. That is what you are best at! Moving the target. Injecting lies into my experiences, for entertainment and ridicule. Because you have no answers. Only questions! So you lash out at people who do have answers and results! It infuriates you! You mope around in a dark closet, leading each other into more darkness.. blind guides!

A blind man with questions about what is in front of him is better than a blind man who thinks he can see. I don't have all the answers, but I don't think slapping the label "god" on all the questions answers a darned thing.

Faith is real. Whether I credit it to God, or you credit it to a hotdog. Whether its devine intervention, or some lucky rabbits foot! Whether its real or perceived.

Hold the phone. What the heck do you mean? Can you have faith without having it in something?

Faith works! And I say it is designed that way by God. He wants you to do whateverTF you want! Believe.....think whatever you want to think!

The only fault you can find in Him is that He hasn't revealed Himself to YOU!

Actually I can find lots of faults with the Christian god as portrayed in the Bible. The Old Testament god is a nasty piece of work. The New Testament god is only marginally better. I'd love eternal (or a least a substantially longer life---though eternal life might actually be hell), but other than that, I'm not enthused by your god.

The supreme head of the universe hasn't taken the time to acknowledge a bunch of fowl mouthed, selfish, finger pointing know-it-all's.

I wonder why?

Perhaps because there isn't a supreme head of the universe?

Now could you take a deep breath and explain why it is selfish or foul mouthed to point out that I think you have a false belief system? You came to this forum specifically to tell atheists that their belief system is false. Right?