(July 12, 2014 at 1:08 pm)Lek Wrote: I don't misunderstand your point. I'm showing that atrocities are committed by atheists. Atrocities are also committed by christians and other theists. The christians who committed atrocities were not doing so because they were christians. They were not following christianity. People who say they are christians can be communists, capitalists, libertarians, masochists, humanitarians, murderers, surgeons, charity owners, thieves, judges and criminals. Christianity does not provide justification or endorsement for atrocities against mankind. If you take away christianity these people will find another excuse.
I don't think that's always the case. In the absence of religion---and I do mean religion generally not just Christianity (or true Christianity whatever that might be)--- bad people will do bad things and good people will do good things. But religion manages to give good people the motivation to do bad things. But for religion, I don't think 9-11 would have occurred. The suicide bomber is a product of religion.
Christians may not be currently blowing themselves up or burning people at the stake, but they are motivated to picket the funerals of gay servicemen, a thing I don't think the picketers would ever do without religion.
What's dangerous is both believing in god AND thinking you know what he wants.
(July 12, 2014 at 1:08 pm)Lek Wrote: If you go back you will see that I did mention how I was being persecuted. I encounter daily hostility from my wife specifically because I'm a christian. I give money to the church and won't do certain things that she wants me to do. I never said that I was suffering extreme persecution. Look up the definition of persecution.Hmm, I think that's so minimal as to not count, like calling a splinter an injury (which it technically is). Besides, what you have there is disagreement about a shared resources. Couldn't she too claim to be persecuted?
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.