(July 12, 2014 at 11:24 pm)Lek Wrote: And I'm saying that what Hitler did wasn't the fault of christianity.
Whether it was or wasn't, it was certainly aided by christianity, in numerous ways.
Quote:You're missing my point. I never blamed atheism for persecuting christians. I did say that atheists have persecuted christians.
But if that is your point, then it's not saying much. In fact, specifying them as atheists misattributes their reason for doing so: you might as well be saying that moustachioed people have persecuted christians. The mustache had as much to do with the persecution as the atheism did.
Quote:If there were no religions, the acts that were motivated by religion probably would not have occurred, but other atrocities would have happened which would be motivated by other rationale. Like I said in my posts, terrible acts were motivated by numerous influences for many different reasons. Evil people commit evil acts.
This is an incredibly bad argument. Other bad things happen, and therefore we shouldn't care about the ones that happen due to religion? Seriously?
What does one have to do with the other? Do you wave off murders and say they don't matter because rapes happen? It's a complete non-sequitur. So what if other bad things happen? Less bad things would happen without your religion, which would make the world a better place! Your argument basically says that because the world wouldn't be absolutely perfect without religion, then it wouldn't be improved at all without religion. It's a false dichotomy, and it's ridiculous.
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