(July 13, 2014 at 10:49 pm)Lek Wrote:I've never met a person who defined themselves as an atheist more than anything else. But atheism is the purpose of this forum. It is why we are here, to get away from the assumption of god. You came here and you are welcome to be here. But don't expect to speak about god unchallenged.(July 13, 2014 at 6:40 pm)Stimbo Wrote: No it doesn't, in the context you want to use. The lack of theism can't drive a person's actions in the way you're trying to assert, any more than neutral gear can't drive a car.
I can't agree with that. This forum is full of people who identify themselves as atheists maybe more than anything else. Their comments are highly influenced by their atheist orientation and they make decisions all the time that are influenced by that orientation. If you're "neutral" on the existence of God, why do you hang out on forums and ridicule theists among yourselves and in discussions with them? Stating that all religion should be wiped out doesn't sound neutral to me. I really see an agenda in many atheists to rid the world of all religions, which is motivated by their atheist persuasion.
Do you talk about god much in church? Would you suffer an atheist to preach a sermon about skepticism one Sunday or teach an adult Sunday school class in atheism? Would the congregation nod politely and say ah just another point of view? I think not. I'm not neutral on the issue of god. Why should I be? There's no evidence of him, and so much harm is done by believing in him. No not all believers do bad things, but many of them who wouldn't do bad things in the name of god.
But I wouldn't outlaw religion. You're free to believe what you want. I wouldn't try to take that right from you. But yes I get tired of nodding politely when my sister-in-law say "don't you think it's the end times." And I'm really tired of attending school board meetings just to see the evolution is not only legal to teach, but is taught. (My best ally in that fight is Christian, but the opposition is all fundies and Mormons.) This is the place I get to let my hair down and not be overly polite about the ludicrous.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.