Jesus's sacrifice

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He gives us every option so that we can lear what is truly good and what is truly evil, to learn his plan. He wants us to evolve and succeed in this endeavor, so he gives us revelations of his will and tools to gauge right vs wrong.

Now, if this were the case, how long do we have to learn "his plan?" I only ask because I don't think that young children who commit heinous murders were given every option to learn what is truly good and truly evil. This is an obvious fact. How can you learn right from wrong completely by the age of, say, ten? So, knowing that it is a fact that children can not be expected to have learned the complexities of good and 'evil' and that children have committed murder, would a Christian have to safely assume that god abandoned these children before they ever had a chance?

Furthermore, is it the child's fault, if they had never read god's revelations? I mean, if he/she was never presented with them in his/her short lifetime before committing a sin, then did god want to see that child fail?

Now, I understand that god doesn't desire us to sin, in your eyes. However, god is responsible for sin, by the definition I have been shown. Sin is not simply the absence of god's will. It is actions, as defined by the Christian representation of sin. god creates man; god is responsible for man's actions. I still think that even if sin simply was the absence of god's will, god made his will, therefore creating sin. It doesn't matter how you slice it. For example, if I am absent from work, I created that absence by ever being present. If I had never gone, I would never had been absent. I'm sorry if my analogies suck, but someone must understand the concept. Or, am I just beating my head against a wall?

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It's moving so fast I can barely keep up. I will disagree with watson on this one. I don't feel children who can't distinguish right from wrong can sin. If they can't distinguish what is right, they can't really do wrong then can they. It's the development of conscience at around 7 that is typically the turning point of them having opinions and thinking for themselves. A lot of times this is stifled and they are brainwashed, for all kinds of reasons. The blame for that would fall on those stiffiling. God is responsible for giving us the option to sin yes. But the action of actually sinning once we are able to determine right from wrong is ours. Sins are the roads we shouldn't take, siple as that. Yes he created teh roads, but we walk them; that's not something I would consider a mistake by God. My son for example is 7. He knows what is right and wrong to some degree and is very empathetic. I could convince him probably to pick up a gun and shoot someone. He knows what the consequences of shooting someone with a gun is, they die. He would do the act, probably with a lot of hesitation, but would feel remorsefull after. He has then learned that not everthing daddy says is right and he would regret that sinful act. If he died the next day, do I think he would be forgiven by God? yes. His remorse was genuine, he has realized what he's done was wrong seeks redemption for his wrong doing. Ok that was a morbid excercise I think I'm done for the night.